[shuffleboard]

Originally Posted by Shansonmarx

Branching off topic but my husband and I are moving to The Villages in the near future, do you know if there are any Investment/Trading clubs? I trade Options daily and read you were looking at financials. Do you know if they have such a club?

There is an options trading club, meets every 2 weeks, (not now due to covid)

Joe

[macawlaw]

I saw a funny meme about this three weeks ago. My guess is that this meme devolved into this rumor. However, think how fast we could all be vaccinated if the Amazon Prime guy was trained as a shot giver!

[DAVES]

Originally Posted by Choro&Swing

Places administering the vaccinations may not charge US, but they are being paid a set fee by the government for each injection. Similarly, Medicare pays for flu vaccinations for those who have Medicare, right? But we the people pay for Medicare. Thus, we are all paying for the development of the vaccine and for its administration. If it turns out that we need to be vaccinated every year or get a booster, the drug companies will be charging much more, pharmacies and doctors’ offices will be charging, and insurance companies will be billed. This isn’t being done out of the goodness of people’s hearts. It makes money for all the companies and businesses involved.

Making money. People are people. Many think they should get more, higher pay, bigger pension etc. These same people expect drug companies should invest many millions to develop new drugs. Pay for the tests to prove the drug is effective and safe and then give it away.
In terms of reading. We have yet to hear what it is costing us, at least the people who pay taxes per shot. I seem to recall reading that the Moderna shot costs less than the Pfizer shot. Each is about as effective and both require two shots. Also, Moderna was listed as American owned. Pfizer is owned by several nations. China is one, the others, if I recall are Japan, Germany, England and the US. The one from Johnson and Johnson is a one injection and less effective than the first two.
I doubt it was ever tested in the sort of test needed to bring a drug to market but, I've read you can take the Moderna and the the Pfizer as your second shot. Lasting immunity. Need for future boosters. Covid 19 has only been around for roughly a year.
Long term? Truth is we do not know. Yet, WE demand to know what is not known.
I

[Oldsalt]

Originally Posted by jbrown132

Back in 70’s there was a strain of flu that was deadly and the developed a vaccine for it and wanted to give everyone a vaccination for it. Where I lived local schools, fire stations and some public buildings were all opened and you went and got in line and they administered these shoots. There were multiple lines wherever you went and there were several people using some type of injection gun administering the shots. The lines moved rapidly and you were in and out in no time. There was no cost for the shot and never any discussion of money. Unfortunately today everything is about money and influence. Vaccinating people at Publix, CVS, Winn Dixie, Walgreens etc. is all about money. How many people go to these stores get a shot, which is free then go in and buy something while their there. These shots should be administered at mass vaccination sites, and no profit making scheme should be associated with it. I saw my doctor last week and he told me if they gave him a thousand doses, he would come in over a weekend and vaccinate everyone of his patients. No charge, no money involved. That reminds me of a time gone by where people did the right things for the right reasons.

Yes. The old injection gun. It works. Remember it from Navy.

[DAVES]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

There would have been less wasted hours and traveling if there was a different system for who was eligible. 1st open vaccines up for over 85 people - then over 75 people - then over 65 people. By making the group anyone over 65, it was too many for the small number of doses delivered so far to Florida. It has caused confusion and hysteria!

There is no question there is confusion and hysteria.

I am glad that I am not the one who has to make the decision on how to do it. As we see on these posts for any plan there will be objections.

Confusion and hysteria? What is going on is sort of like people killing each other to get the latest toy, or ticket to a sporting event.

I am over 70 with a REAL pre-existing condition and to date have not been able to get a first. I called my doctor's office and was told they do not know but hope they will have the injections by March. The system? I will bet if they could there would be scalpers selling a place in line. So far while I've not been able to get my first shot the plan in this situation is working well. Nothing is or can be perfect.
shot

[DAVES]

Originally Posted by RaunchyRich

Are Undocumented Workers eligible for the vaccine? Are they afraid to get the vaccine?

I think they are. I am not pro-illegal emigration but, imagine. The guy in the kitchen, ????
mowing your grass, painting your home etc etc etc has say tuberculosis, covid 19 etc.
If, we choose to deny him medical care he is a disease spreader. There are diseases spread by insect bites, rat bites etc. They do not choose to only bite people that are in the US legally.

[Vernon Hud]

Yes, there are such clubs in The Villages.

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

There would have been less wasted hours and traveling if there was a different system for who was eligible. 1st open vaccines up for over 85 people - then over 75 people - then over 65 people. By making the group anyone over 65, it was too many for the small number of doses delivered so far to Florida. It has caused confusion and hysteria!

HySTERIA?

[Spalumbos62]

Originally Posted by FG111

Hello-
On a linky via xxxxx under one of the financial sites that shorted stocks like $GME, I read that Amazon """""MAY"""" be in early talks with the authorities that if granted permission and access to the certain COVID19 vaccine that doesn't require a sub-zero freezer, Amazon may come-up with the model where a customer may order, have delivered and have an Amazon paid medical technician inject an adult with the vaccine for a small administrative fee / profit fee right at their residence. This service would be directed primarily to those who cannot or unwilling to leave their home or those willing to pay an extra fee for the convenience.

Naturally this is just a rumor, but can you just imagine if a great company, such as Amazon gets involved on how quickly they can disburse the vaccine, especially when a financial incentive is involved.

I have been saying this for months...just get it to me and I will handle how its administration. People do their own insulin, botox for migraines... there are many that know how to inject. This could be handled so easily.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by Iowagirl2

Has anybody else heard the rumor that it alters your DNA.??

Silly rumor. Read about it.........

Will an mRNA vaccine alter my DNA? | Gavi, the Vaccine Alliance

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by DAVES

I think they are. I am not pro-illegal emigration but, imagine. The guy in the kitchen, ????
mowing your grass, painting your home etc etc etc has say tuberculosis, covid 19 etc.
If, we choose to deny him medical care he is a disease spreader. There are diseases spread by insect bites, rat bites etc. They do not choose to only bite people that are in the US legally.

This is a case of one wrong ( the original one of letting illegals into the US and giving them employment) - then followed by a 2nd wrong of giving them equal benefits as legal citizens (like equal access to vaccines) - then justifying the 2nd wrong by saying, "well, they are here now so we have to keep them here and give them equal benefits". I say that if they want a vaccine, then go back to their country of origin. In fact, if you do that we should be willing to give you a vaccine. That would be money well spent. Just stay away!

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Spalumbos62

I have been saying this for months...just get it to me and I will handle how its administration. People do their own insulin, botox for migraines... there are many that know how to inject. This could be handled so easily.

How could they get it to you when the 2 main vaccines need to stay extremely cold? if they tried that then a lot of doses would be ruined by heat.

[vinnytalk]

There will always be a company that will do it to save the people
GMC may not be that company.

[chet2020]

Originally Posted by newgirl

They should let laypeople give it, anyone can be taught in 5 min and I am sure many would even volunteer. Nobody ever died from being pricked, they died because of what is in the needle.

Finding people to inject the vaccine is not the bottleneck. Most states are now reporting that they've got the infrastructure in place, they just need more vaccine. The pharma companies are the bottleneck at this point. If we get the Janssen vaccine on line, then we'll be rolling.

BTW, someone mentioned the Janssen (J&J) vaccine is less effective than the Moderna and Pfizer vaccines. This is true, in terms of not catching COVID-19. However, it is 100% effective in preventing hospitalization and death. If it comes down to it, I'll take the Janssen vaccine in a heartbeat.

[Pmarlow]

Originally Posted by Shansonmarx

Branching off topic but my husband and I are moving to The Villages in the near future, do you know if there are any Investment/Trading clubs? I trade Options daily and read you were looking at financials. Do you know if they have such a club?

Yes there are several to choose from. There are clubs for everything here.