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Old 02-16-2021, 10:41 AM
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I purchases a new home in Hawkins, my property backs up to a church that regularly burns trash in their backyard area, apparently legally, the smoke can get very heavy and acrid at times, if I was aware of this prior to buying I believe I would have made a different choice, be advised
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Old 02-16-2021, 10:58 AM
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You used the phrase "apparently legal" and wrote they are burning trash. The state of Florida has regulations on open burning which can be found HERE.

Included is this regulation:

What materials are prohibited to be open burned in Florida?
Open burning of biological waste, hazardous waste, asbestos-containing materials, mercury-containing devices, pharmaceuticals, tires, rubber material, residual oil, used oil, asphalt, roofing material, tar, treated wood, plastics, garbage, or trash is strictly prohibited.

There is also a pdf of the regulations that can be found HERE

Burning of allowed material is also controlled with rules about the exact hours it is allowed, the size of the pile being burned, the requirement that fire extinguishing equipment be at the burn site, and that a person must be present while material is burning.

The church may very well be in violation of state regulations if they are doing what you describe.
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I purchases a new home in Hawkins, my property backs up to a church that regularly burns trash in their backyard area, apparently legally, the smoke can get very heavy and acrid at times, if I was aware of this prior to buying I believe I would have made a different choice, be advised

My first move would be to go and speak to the church leadership. They are likely not aware of the situation and would not want to offend.
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I have stayed at places in Mexico where trash was being burned nearby.. I can tell you that the smell is pretty bad. Before you think it's third world I saw it in rural Wisconsin as well. Hope that gets resolved soon.
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I bet there were no open houses scheduled around that time
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If the wind is in the right direction, burn your own on Sunday morning!
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When we were looking at homes our TV agent, Beth Pope, told us that when buying a property that abuts non-village owned property there is no way of knowing what is going to happen next to you. We took her advice and did exactly what you state you would have done, made a different choice. Choosing the right agent is very important when buying a home, we didn't just pick Beth Pope from a photo or ad, we had several people referred her as the go to agent in TV. I too would agree that a talk with the church leadership could help, maybe ask for a packet of donation envelopes too, a few dollars could go a long way in providing a better environment.
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My first move would be to go and speak to the church leadership. They are likely not aware of the situation and would not want to offend.
If they aren't aware that 1) burning trash makes smoke, 2) smoke drifts when wind moves, 3) other people live nearby and 4) their trash burning might cause drifts of nasty noxious smoke to end up in a neighbor's house

then they're not very smart people.

If they are smart people, then they just don't care.

If they don't care, then they're definitely not a Christian church of ANY denomination of christianity.

If they are a Christian church of any denomination, then they shouldn't be.
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If they aren't aware that 1) burning trash makes smoke, 2) smoke drifts when wind moves, 3) other people live nearby and 4) their trash burning might cause drifts of nasty noxious smoke to end up in a neighbor's house

then they're not very smart people.

If they are smart people, then they just don't care.

If they don't care, then they're definitely not a Christian church of ANY denomination of christianity.

If they are a Christian church of any denomination, then they shouldn't be.
Or they are used to living in a rural area of Florida and haven't needed to be concerned with the sensitivities of Villages People.

My dad lives next to a potato farm that fertilizes with animal waste. They aren't inconsiderate to my father, that's just the way things have always been done.

My in-laws live in a house on a flight path to a major regional airport. They hear planes most of the time. The airport isn't being inconsiderate, the airport was there before my in-laws moved in.

The church burns trash. Perhaps they always have. The trash burning hasn't changed, the neighbors have. That doesn't mean you have to buy a house near that church, and the OP was being helpful to let others know, but it also doesn't meant the church is being inconsiderate or criminal by continuing a practice that perhaps has been ongoing since the church moved there.
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Is this the church that didn't get a turn lane from Morse/Warm Springs? Is this the church that The Villages made sure will not have golf cart access?
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Just because something has been done for that way for years doesn't make it morally right. Being a good neighbor and having respect for others should be the guiding principal. Talk to the church pastor about the problem, maybe that will solve the problem. If not then call these newly elected county officials that have so much concern for the tax payers in the county and have them introduce a county ordinance to ban this activity. There is trash service available for the church to dispose of garbage so they have no need to burn it themselves.
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Is this the church that didn't get a turn lane from Morse/Warm Springs? Is this the church that The Villages made sure will not have golf cart access?
Is this the church that turned down the developer's offer to buy the property?
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The answer is in post #3. Everything after is speculation...........and the usual cheap shots at the developer.
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When we were looking at homes our TV agent, Beth Pope, told us that when buying a property that abuts non-village owned property there is no way of knowing what is going to happen next to you. We took her advice and did exactly what you state you would have done, made a different choice. Choosing the right agent is very important when buying a home, we didn't just pick Beth Pope from a photo or ad, we had several people referred her as the go to agent in TV. I too would agree that a talk with the church leadership could help, maybe ask for a packet of donation envelopes too, a few dollars could go a long way in providing a better environment.
in the 4 corners area called polo park it was very nice adult park , people bought preferred lots on one side of the property because there were miles of frozen orange groves to look at this property was about 4 miles to Disney gate , I don’t have to tell you the ending but I will anyway one day those people woke up to children playing in there back yards never ever back up to something unless you know for sure what will ever be there
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When we were looking at homes our TV agent, Beth Pope, told us that when buying a property that abuts non-village owned property there is no way of knowing what is going to happen next to you.
That seems obvious to me. Looking at properties on the Villages web site the first thing I do is study the map of the location. If it abuts non-villages property or is even close to non-villages property I immediately dismiss it.

What makes me scratch my head is seeing that listed as a "feature" of the house. I'm attaching a screen capture from the villages web site.

Who would think this is a "feature"???
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