[Kelevision]

Originally Posted by Dani & Bill

We shall see... I personally disagree. The novelty of Sawgrass as an entertainment venue will quickly wear off as patrons realize it has no ambiance or personality and will opt for Brownwood. The food, cost and other stupid policies like no coin change will contribute to the venue's negative aura. Sawgrass is a complete disappointment so far with nothing on the horizon to dissuade me at least from feeling otherwise.

You can’t really compare Sawgrass to Brownwood. It’s more of an alternate to a Country Club for the Championship Course. Easpoint will be the 4th Town Square.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by Kelevision

You can’t really compare Sawgrass to Brownwood. It’s more of an alternate to a Country Club for the Championship Course. Easpoint will be the 4th Town Square.

I don't understand the comparison to a Country Club. None of the country clubs in the Brownwood area have standalone pizza and sweet shops, none are expecting a butcher, and none have a large stage and viewing area. Plus most (all?) the country clubs in the Brownwood area are adjacent to a golf course (not a putting course).

It's not a town square, but it isn't a country club either.

[thelegges]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

I don't understand the comparison to a Country Club. None of the country clubs in the Brownwood area have standalone pizza and sweet shops, none are expecting a butcher, and none have a large stage and viewing area. Plus most (all?) the country clubs in the Brownwood area are adjacent to a golf course (not a putting course).

It's not a town square, but it isn't a country club either.

Developer wanted a new concept instead of building a country club. Their house their rules. Since they lease all the restaurants in CC this may have been a way not to deal with finding tenants for large country club venue.

Down the road if it works well for the developers country clubs may be a thing of the past

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by thelegges

Developer wanted a new concept instead of building a country club. Their house their rules. Since they lease all the restaurants in CC this may have been a way not to deal with finding tenants for large country club venue.

Down the road if it works well for the developers country clubs may be a thing of the past

Let's hope not for the southern village's sake. Country clubs are what has worked for years and there is too many complaints about Sawgrass and what it is attempting to be.

[thelegges]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

Let's hope not for the southern village's sake. Country clubs are what has worked for years and there is too many complaints about Sawgrass and what it is attempting to be.

However if the new concept works in the developers favor, still their house their rules. In 13 years, I would guess we have eaten in a country club, maybe 10 times a year. With hard to find staff, large venues just requires more people than can be recruited. If you notice the square foot of country clubs has greatly decreased. With the removal of one CC, that course is still being played, without the benefit of a building, or a sawgrass prototype

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

Let's hope not for the southern village's sake. Country clubs are what has worked for years and there is too many complaints about Sawgrass and what it is attempting to be.

Lets hope that when Sawgrass is finally finished they will be serving a product that villages will be happy with.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by thelegges

Developer wanted a new concept instead of building a country club. Their house their rules. Since they lease all the restaurants in CC this may have been a way not to deal with finding tenants for large country club venue.

Down the road if it works well for the developers country clubs may be a thing of the past

Or did they want a new concept instead of building a town square? What makes Sawgrass anything like a country club other than a reluctance to call it a town square?

[thelegges]

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC

Lets hope that when Sawgrass is finally finished they will be serving a product that villages will be happy with.

16 years ago we spent most of our time in SS because LSL was so new it took 5 minutes to take it in. Once Brownwood was built we rarely go to LSL and can’t remember last time we were in SS.

Fast forward to 2024, Middleton will be taking shape, with new shopping and venues. No matter how you look at it the Developers have continued to make people happy, and selling more house’s in a month than any other community.

Once sawgrass opens its music venue, it will like Edna’s, a place to locally stop for a snack, drink and some music. Difference is at Sawgrass when it pours down rain you have a large building to go to. Edna’s not so much.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

I don't understand the comparison to a Country Club. None of the country clubs in the Brownwood area have standalone pizza and sweet shops, none are expecting a butcher, and none have a large stage and viewing area. Plus most (all?) the country clubs in the Brownwood area are adjacent to a golf course (not a putting course).

It's not a town square, but it isn't a country club either.

Hence the "alternative" to a country club comment...

It's called a "Market" fer chrissakes...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

Or did they want a new concept instead of building a town square? What makes Sawgrass anything like a country club other than a reluctance to call it a town square?

The Pro Shop for the golf course...

They are sill going to have a new Town Square in Eastport...

[Djean1981]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

Let's hope not for the southern village's sake. Country clubs are what has worked for years and there is too many complaints about Sawgrass and what it is attempting to be.

I've never been to a "country club.". It sounds stuffy..?

[P A Paul]

Everybody has to be somewhere…with the housing boom comes people, and the population density means all of the these places will be utilized in some form. One of the advantages of The Villages is the increase in amenities and commercial options rise in number to accommodate the residents. The developers have experience and data that is more reliable than most conjecture occurring on the message boards.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Djean1981

I've never been to a "country club.". It sounds stuffy..?

Just this one...

[thelegges]

Originally Posted by Djean1981

I've never been to a "country club.". It sounds stuffy..?

So a visit to any of the championship golf course, country clubs will give you a in person experience. Not that hard, just walk right in, no playing of golf is required

[JSR22]

Originally Posted by thelegges

So a visit to any of the championship golf course, country clubs will give you a in person experience. Not that hard, just walk right in, no playing of golf is required

hey are restaurants open to the public. No membership.