[batman911]

Has anyone run a propane line into their kitchen to hook up to their kitchen stove? We have a buried propane tank for our outdoor kitchen and spa. Curious about the cost. The last gas stove we purchased came with a propane conversion kit so I know it can be done. Appreciate any comments from anyone who has done it and how they like it.

[Harrford]

Yes, we did. The tank was buried and about 20 feet from the kitchen area. Cost was about $300 to hire someone to run the line, drill through the wall, install to the stove and all adjustments to LP gas.

[TVMayor]

If I had a buried LP tank I would buy a generator to hook to it. I have a less than one year old generator I tried to start yesterday just to let it run for a short time and I could not get it started. It has a three year warranty so I took it to the dealer today and he said Honda does not cover today’s crappie gas under warranty. I told him I put preservative in the gas and he said it might preserve the gas put it still plugs the jets. LP gas does not do that, it produces no carbon to make the oil dirty and you do not have to worry about carbon monoxide.

[batman911]

Originally Posted by Harrford

Yes, we did. The tank was buried and about 20 feet from the kitchen area. Cost was about $300 to hire someone to run the line, drill through the wall, install to the stove and all adjustments to LP gas.

How does cooking with propane compare to natural gas? About the same or different?

[Buckeyephan]

We live in the country in Ohio and have had propane for 15 years. It is used for our stove, water heater and furnace. It works the same as the natural gas we hand in the city. Until we met with our builder during walk through and I whined about missing my gas stove, I had no idea it was a possibility in the new areas. Will have to seriously check on the possibilities. It is the one thing I am unhappy about with moving to TV. How large are the tanks you use and how often are they refilled? We have a standard sized lot so is it even something we could do?

[upinmaine]

Originally Posted by TVMayor

If I had a buried LP tank I would buy a generator to hook to it. I have a less than one year old generator I tried to start yesterday just to let it run for a short time and I could not get it started. It has a three year warranty so I took it to the dealer today and he said Honda does not cover today’s crappie gas under warranty. I told him I put preservative in the gas and he said it might preserve the gas put it still plugs the jets. LP gas does not do that, it produces no carbon to make the oil dirty and you do not have to worry about carbon monoxide.

I agree with you about most of the advantages of using LP or natural gas except that you most certainly DO have to worry about CO with LP or any fuel fired appliances. I spend over 40 years in public safety and I can assure you that we have had fatalities from CO poisoning using LP or natural gas appliances. I can think of a family of two parents and two children who died that way that come quickly to my mind. Be happy AND safe!

[TVMayor]

Originally Posted by upinmaine

I agree with you about most of the advantages of using LP or natural gas except that you most certainly DO have to worry about CO with LP or any fuel fired appliances. I spend over 40 years in public safety and I can assure you that we have had fatalities from CO poisoning using LP or natural gas appliances. I can think of a family of two parents and two children who died that way that come quickly to my mind. Be happy AND safe!

Propane undergoes combustion reactions in a similar fashion to other alkanes. In the presence of excess oxygen, propane burns to form water and carbon dioxide.
C3H8 + 5 O2 → 3 CO2 + 4 H2O + heat
propane + oxygen → carbon dioxide + water
When not enough oxygen is present for complete combustion, incomplete combustion occurs when propane burns and forms water, carbon monoxide, and carbon dioxide.
C3H8 + 4.5 O2 → 2 CO2 + CO + 4 H2O + heat
Propane + Oxygen → Carbon dioxide + Carbon monoxide + Water

Propane - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It would be my personal opinion that using propane in a camper, home kitchen, laundry room or in a forklift in a warehouse, sufficient oxygen would be available for a clean burn producing carbon dioxide and not carbon monoxide.

[upinmaine]

Originally Posted by TVMayor

Propane - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It would be my personal opinion that using propane in a camper, home kitchen, laundry room or in a forklift in a warehouse, sufficient oxygen would be available for a clean burn producing carbon dioxide and not carbon monoxide.

Using a gas heater in a camper, or home kitchen, or a home dryer is far different than using an unvented generator. These uses can't be compared to using an unvented generator. ALL fuel burning appliances will give off CO. There is an abundance of evidence and many cases of illness and deaths from CO deaths from unvented gas (LP and natural) appliances. There isn't any gas professional who would advocate running a gas generator in a garage or near an opening to an occupied space. And you would not find a gas furnace that didn't need to be exhausted to the outside. Even gas log fireplaces have a detector that will shut them down if the CO levels get too high. Check the CDC web site regarding CO poisonings and gas. The family of four that I mentioned died from the CO from a gas furnace. Don't get me wrong, I love gas and wish I had it here in The Villages, at least for cooking. I enjoy cooking and hate the stupid glass top electrc range that we were stuck with in our new home. However, I have dealt with too many illnesses and deaths in my career to be careless about such matters. That is also why many states have CO detector laws.

[TVMayor]

Originally Posted by upinmaine

Using a gas heater in a camper, or home kitchen, or a home dryer is far different than using an unvented generator. These uses can't be compared to using an unvented generator. ALL fuel burning appliances will give off CO. There is an abundance of evidence and many cases of illness and deaths from CO deaths from unvented gas (LP and natural) appliances. There isn't any gas professional who would advocate running a gas generator in a garage or near an opening to an occupied space. And you would not find a gas furnace that didn't need to be exhausted to the outside. Even gas log fireplaces have a detector that will shut them down if the CO levels get too high. Check the CDC web site regarding CO poisonings and gas. The family of four that I mentioned died from the CO from a gas furnace. Don't get me wrong, I love gas and wish I had it here in The Villages, at least for cooking. I enjoy cooking and hate the stupid glass top electrc range that we were stuck with in our new home. However, I have dealt with too many illnesses and deaths in my career to be careless about such matters. That is also why many states have CO detector laws.

I was not suggesting nor did I say to take the generator in the house. Unless you want to listen to the generator rather than the TV.

[batman911]

Originally Posted by Buckeyephan

We live in the country in Ohio and have had propane for 15 years. It is used for our stove, water heater and furnace. It works the same as the natural gas we hand in the city. Until we met with our builder during walk through and I whined about missing my gas stove, I had no idea it was a possibility in the new areas. Will have to seriously check on the possibilities. It is the one thing I am unhappy about with moving to TV. How large are the tanks you use and how often are they refilled? We have a standard sized lot so is it even something we could do?

Our tank is buried in the side yard near the kitchen. It holds 250 gallons. Since we just closed in March, we have not needed to refill the tank. You just call the propane company and they will come and fill it. The only thing visible in the yard is a small cover, about one foot diameter, that contains the isolation valve, fill connection and guage. We have had natural gas in our home for about 35 years without any problem. We use it for cooking and the water heater. We are not fans of the smooth top electric kitchen stoves.