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Old 11-07-2024, 10:48 PM
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many vendors/supplies, etc want to communicate by email.
to set up a meeting, a call, whatever, etc.

who checks their email all the time throughout the day?

I don't so how does one manage these email types who think that I am sitting at home with my email open all day? an insurance sales rep emails me that he is available to call at 2PM today at noon time. . i wasn't on email most of the day. . as i am not on the computer most of the day

my phone email is slow slow and like 4 email accounts, there is too much useless email to sit for 15 minutes to wade through my emails evry hour or so
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Old 11-08-2024, 01:16 AM
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Agree, too much junk email to turn notifications on.

If time is of the essence, they need to call or text me.
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many vendors/supplies, etc want to communicate by email.
to set up a meeting, a call, whatever, etc.

who checks their email all the time throughout the day?

I don't so how does one manage these email types who think that I am sitting at home with my email open all day? an insurance sales rep emails me that he is available to call at 2PM today at noon time. . i wasn't on email most of the day. . as i am not on the computer most of the day

my phone email is slow slow and like 4 email accounts, there is too much useless email to sit for 15 minutes to wade through my emails evry hour or so
You're dealing with a generational issue of laziness and incompetence.

I have this conversation at least once a day, with people I do business with ... who expect that email is now the same as texting and is synchronous communication. I get email all the time, "Hey B, I have a conference call set up in 15 minutes, if you can make it on the call".

It ****es me off. Email was a great invention and what made it popular, was the fact that it was asynchronous communication. You sent it at your convenience (even if it was 2 a.m.) and the receiver got to respond at their convenience ... now every idiot thinks the world is sitting around, waiting for their email.

I've had a cell phone since before there were "cell phones". I had an RCC telephone in my car in the early 80's. When cell phones began in 1988-1989, I was one of CellOne's first 100 customers in the Boston Metro Market. In those days, you needed to also have a PalmPilot or Blackberry, to get email on the fly. It was a huge convenience, but the generations behind us, have misused the technology.

People don't know how to have a conversation ... they just throw words at each other, via email. Our company lawyer, who I deal with on a daily basis, says I'm about the only client who calls him on the phone and insists that he call me. I can get things done on the phone, that would take 20 emails to accomplish. The whole email thing, is nothing more than flat out laziness and insecurity. People don't want to be forced to answer a question or provide input, in a real time conversation.

How do you solve the nonsense? My phone does not retrieve email, unless I "push it". I'm on the computer in the morning when I'm having coffee and when I get home from the golf course, until dinner time. I tell everyone I deal with, if you email me between 10 am and 4 pm, don't expect a reply ... I didn't get your email.

I got 98 emails yesterday (I just counted). I got ZERO on my phone in real time. I don't have time to deal with MORONS, who believe email is real-time communication.

Just to take this one step further ... try calling a company or someone you do business with. NO ONE answers the phone any longer. They allow to go to voice mail, so they get to hear what you have to say ... then they can "think about it" and not have to provide an answer or opinion, in real time. You are now at their mercy, when they find it convenient to call you back.

Just to further continue my rant at 4:30 am. I emailed a Membership Director at a private country club, 10 days ago (I'm tired of golf conditions in TV). I have yet to get a substantive response from this jerk. All I get are "canned" email responses. Haha. He doesn't know, I know his General Manager. I called the GM last night and told him just how incompetent his Membership Director is. This lazy jerk is going to be looking for a new job in about 6 hours.
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So kindly reply back what are your open times this week?
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Old 11-08-2024, 07:07 AM
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So kindly reply back what are your open times this week?
Everything works until it doesn't. That's what i did and then it stopped working


the sales rep emailed to tell me the times were no longer available.
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You're dealing with a generational issue of laziness and incompetence.

I agree with the statement but I suspect we disagree with who it describes.

I use text, email, and messenger interchangeably. However someone wants to get in touch with me, I facilitate it. My devices are configured to receive in near real time and provide alerts when appropriate. I can easily ignore anything I want to ignore but if something needs my attention I try to make sure it can get my attention.

There is one exception - phone calls. If you call on the phone I am just as likely to force it to voicemail so that I have a recording of the message for posterity.

I don’t use WhatsApp yet, mostly because none of my contacts have requested it but partly because of a generational issue of laziness and incompetence. It’s a technology in use today but I haven’t bothered to take the time to learn that new stuff yet.
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Old 11-08-2024, 08:51 AM
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You're dealing with a generational issue of laziness and incompetence.

I have this conversation at least once a day, with people I do business with ... who expect that email is now the same as texting and is synchronous communication. I get email all the time, "Hey B, I have a conference call set up in 15 minutes, if you can make it on the call".

It ****es me off. Email was a great invention and what made it popular, was the fact that it was asynchronous communication. You sent it at your convenience (even if it was 2 a.m.) and the receiver got to respond at their convenience ... now every idiot thinks the world is sitting around, waiting for their email.

I've had a cell phone since before there were "cell phones". I had an RCC telephone in my car in the early 80's. When cell phones began in 1988-1989, I was one of CellOne's first 100 customers in the Boston Metro Market. In those days, you needed to also have a PalmPilot or Blackberry, to get email on the fly. It was a huge convenience, but the generations behind us, have misused the technology.

People don't know how to have a conversation ... they just throw words at each other, via email. Our company lawyer, who I deal with on a daily basis, says I'm about the only client who calls him on the phone and insists that he call me. I can get things done on the phone, that would take 20 emails to accomplish. The whole email thing, is nothing more than flat out laziness and insecurity. People don't want to be forced to answer a question or provide input, in a real time conversation.

How do you solve the nonsense? My phone does not retrieve email, unless I "push it". I'm on the computer in the morning when I'm having coffee and when I get home from the golf course, until dinner time. I tell everyone I deal with, if you email me between 10 am and 4 pm, don't expect a reply ... I didn't get your email.

I got 98 emails yesterday (I just counted). I got ZERO on my phone in real time. I don't have time to deal with MORONS, who believe email is real-time communication.

Just to take this one step further ... try calling a company or someone you do business with. NO ONE answers the phone any longer. They allow to go to voice mail, so they get to hear what you have to say ... then they can "think about it" and not have to provide an answer or opinion, in real time. You are now at their mercy, when they find it convenient to call you back.

Just to further continue my rant at 4:30 am. I emailed a Membership Director at a private country club, 10 days ago (I'm tired of golf conditions in TV). I have yet to get a substantive response from this jerk. All I get are "canned" email responses. Haha. He doesn't know, I know his General Manager. I called the GM last night and told him just how incompetent his Membership Director is. This lazy jerk is going to be looking for a new job in about 6 hours.
Wow, 98. You must be on the emails for sale list.
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If you want to set up a meeting quickly text or phone call is the way to go.

Emails are great but cannot count on recipient reading and acting on it immediately
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Old 11-08-2024, 09:49 AM
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Emails are fine. If you are sending me an attachment or a notification, they're perfect. I will look through them quickly several times a day.

Texts are for communicating near-immediately with friends, family, and the occasional vendor who is asking if they can swing by or whatever.

I prefer both of the above simply for paper-trail purposes and convenience.

Phones are for nothing. I ditched my landline 5+ years ago. Phones ring and are demanding your attention right this second despite anything else you are doing. Phones tie me up so that I cannot continue to do or work on what I was before its incessant and annoying ring intruded on my idyll. I am forced to drop everything and attend to the caller that very second and I get to walk around my house doing so with only one hand. Can't cook, carry things, etc. for the 1, 2, 30, or 60 minutes a phone call can take.

Sorry - maybe it's my 80's Gen-X mid-50's self, but I hate telephones. Wanna get ahold of me? Send me a text. In a few minutes I will reply when it is convenient and I have finished what I am doing right that second.
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many vendors/supplies, etc want to communicate by email.
to set up a meeting, a call, whatever, etc.

who checks their email all the time throughout the day?

I don't so how does one manage these email types who think that I am sitting at home with my email open all day? an insurance sales rep emails me that he is available to call at 2PM today at noon time. . i wasn't on email most of the day. . as i am not on the computer most of the day

my phone email is slow slow and like 4 email accounts, there is too much useless email to sit for 15 minutes to wade through my emails evry hour or so
Let them wait, you’re retired. One of the great things about being retired is that you are now on your schedule, not other parties. Unless I’m expecting something really important to me (like when is my tee time), I typically check my emails once in the morning and again sometime at night.
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I screen ALL calls, I have found that not answering scam/spam phone calls really cuts way down on the number of calls we get, we are now down to 2 or 3 a day, and were at well over 10 for a while. My car no longer talks to my phone (bluetooth module failure $$$), so I do not answer calls while I am driving, and the bowling alley roof effectively blocks much of the cell phone signals so I do not have to worry about calls there either. As stated earlier, I do prefer a text message, or a voice message, I do not and will not link my phone to my email so this will work best if you are NOT in hurry to get a reply.
While I have had a smart phone for decades, I am NOT a slave to the device. It is a PHONE, and I treat it that way.
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Isn't it easier for a business to send an email instead of a text?
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Anyone who expects a response to email in less than 24 hours is clueless about how email functions. If you need an immediate response, text or call.
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Anyone who expects a response to email in less than 24 hours is clueless about how email functions. If you need an immediate response, text or call.
I disagree. Email functions much faster than that, nearly immediately. Any 24 hr delay is due to the way the recipient works, not the technology.

I answer emails just as quickly as I answer texts and faster than I am likely to answer phone calls.
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