[Chellybean]

4 guy going house to house soliciting window washing. One guy walking door to door, knocking on the frame of the door and didn't ring my door bell camera, hmmmm.
My neighbors hired them 3 guys in a white Chevy I think cruze or Malibu pulls up 3 guys get out of the car with a ladder and window cleaning bottles and start cleaning windows on my neighbors property. Hmmmm similar scam happened in my home town 10 years ago, peekaboo in the windows to see if there is anything good to steal,then send there buddies over to steal. I thought there was no soliciting in the villages. I'm sure do gooders will have a problem with my post as usual. Beware!!!

[ThirdOfFive]

Originally Posted by Chellybean

4 guy going house to house soliciting window washing. One guy walking door to door, knocking on the frame of the door and didn't ring my door bell camera, hmmmm.
My neighbors hired them 3 guys in a white Chevy I think cruze or Malibu pulls up 3 guys get out of the car with a ladder and window cleaning bottles and start cleaning windows on my neighbors property. Hmmmm similar scam happened in my home town 10 years ago, peekaboo in the windows to see if there is anything good to steal,then send there buddies over to steal. I thought there was no soliciting in the villages. I'm sure do gooders will have a problem with my post as usual. Beware!!!

Beware is right! Hiring them gives them carte blanche to check out your house, what is inside, any obvious security cameras you might have, window alarms, etc. etc.

On the other hand it might be just some guys out to make an honest (sort of) buck. About three years I had a similar thing happen. I hadn't been here too long, maybe six months, and was out mowing my lawn. Older guy in an SUV pulling a trailer with various and sundry lawn maintenance tools in back pulls up, and asked me if I wanted my lawn mowed. As I was already about 1/4 done mowing I declined. He then asked if he could trim my hedge and bushes. It was a hot day and I wasn't looking forward to doing them myself so I asked the price. $25.00. I said sure, and continued mowing while he trimmed. Once done I paid him $25 cash, he thanked me, hopped back into his SUV and left. Haven't seen him since.

He did however ask the lady on our block a few doors down, and I did see him mowing her lawn.

[Chellybean]

Yes it could be legitimate but mowing the lawn and playing peekaboo in my windows are two different things. I have no problem cleaning my own windows. Today's environment WITH all these illegals come across the border I don't trust anything. JMHO

[Velvet]

Yes, I believe there is no soliciting. They are trespassing.

[Stu from NYC]

I would have politely, at least the first time, sent them on their way

[Velvet]

Originally Posted by Marathon Man

So, you want to warn people about a possible scam, and then choose to hurl an insult toward us. Nice, really nice.

BTW - How many times does it have to be pointed out that the no soliciting 'rule' is unenforceable?

Hmm, I don’t seem to have a problem enforcing it. I just remind them that this type of activity is unwelcome in TV.

[CarlR33]

Call da law? Better yet, call one of those village patrol cars?

[Chellybean]

Originally Posted by Marathon Man

So, you want to warn people about a possible scam, and then choose to hurl an insult toward us. Nice, really nice.

BTW - How many times does it have to be pointed out that the no soliciting 'rule' is unenforceable?

That's how people, especially the elderly get scammed. I guess I'm not nice huh?

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by Velvet

Yes, I believe there is no soliciting. They are trespassing.

How are they trespassing if they are traveling on public roads and leaving private property when asked?

[Chellybean]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

How are they trespassing if they are traveling on public roads and leaving private property when asked?

Statue 810.09
It's all there to read, once they leave public property, Florida has one of the best trespassing laws in the country.
Under the law you don't even have to be on the property to be trespassed warning to be submitted by law enforcement, if you come back you get a free Uber ride by law enforcement lol

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by Chellybean

Statue 810.09
It's all there to read, once they leave public property, Florida has one of the best trespassing laws in the country.
Under the law you don't even have to be on the property to be trespassed warning to be submitted by law enforcement, if you come back you get a free Uber ride by law enforcement lol

Exactly. If they leave private property when asked they are not trespassing.

[Chellybean]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

Exactly. If they leave private property when asked they are not trespassing.

You need to read the law you are incorrect my friend. If they are trespassed off with a written warning by law enforcement and come back and enter the property it's considered trespassing even if you asked them to leave and they do leave. You can believe what you want my friend! They can be arrested at that point!

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by Chellybean

Statue 810.09
It's all there to read, once they leave public property, Florida has one of the best trespassing laws in the country.
Under the law you don't even have to be on the property to be trespassed warning to be submitted by law enforcement, if you come back you get a free Uber ride by law enforcement lol

First of all, it's a statute, not a statue.

Second, different communities have different regulations regarding trespassing, the Florida statute only covers a "generic" situation.

Third, if they come onto your property uninvited, and you have to ask them to leave, then they have already trespassed, by coming onto your property uninvited. That IS trespassing. That's the very definition. Going where you aren't invited. I shouldn't have to tell a trespasser to get off my property, in order to have the encounter qualify as a trespass. The fact that they got to my door is qualification enough.

Florida is actually LAX on the definition of trespass, and requires the owner to object after the fact. That protects the trespasser, not the homeowner.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by Chellybean

You need to read the law you are incorrect my friend. If they are trespassed off with a written warning by law enforcement and come back and enter the property it's considered trespassing even if you asked them to leave and they do leave. You can believe what you want my friend!

Was there a written warning by law enforcement? I missed any mention of that in any post, including yours.

Call 911 if you feel strongly about it. Tell them someone came on your property then left when you asked them to and now you want them arrested for trespassing.

[retiredguy123]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

First of all, it's a statute, not a statue.

Second, different communities have different regulations regarding trespassing, the Florida statute only covers a "generic" situation.

Third, if they come onto your property uninvited, and you have to ask them to leave, then they have already trespassed, by coming onto your property uninvited. That IS trespassing. That's the very definition. Going where you aren't invited. I shouldn't have to tell a trespasser to get off my property, in order to have the encounter qualify as a trespass. The fact that they got to my door is qualification enough.

Florida is actually LAX on the definition of trespass, and requires the owner to object after the fact. That protects the trespasser, not the homeowner.

I was at the Havana CC once and a guy was there using an electrical outlet on the breezeway. A police car showed up, and he and the manager filled out a form which the policeman gave to the guy. He said it was a trespassing notice and that, if he returned again, he would be arrested. So, it could be that you need a written notice to actually enforce the trespass law.