[Sunnyme]

Hello, my wife and I recently purchased a CYV in The Villages and plan to change over the land scaping to make the exterior very low maintenance. We plan to remove all of the grass.
I am aware of the Architectural review process and will submit for approval as required.

Prior to submitting the paperwork, I am looking for some advice and experience on handling runoff water from a brick patio that we plan to install in the back yard.

We plan to have the grass in the back yard replaced with pavers, installed by a reputable landscaping company. One side of the new brick patio will be bordered by the house, two sides of the new brick patio will be bordered by the rear walls and the last remaining side of the paver patio will be 50% bordered by the concrete slab that exists in the back yard just outside of the lanai.

My question is, will the gaps between the brick be enough of a vent to let the rainwater run through the bricks to drain the patio? The landscaper can grade the subsoil so the water runs away from the house, but I would not want to then have the rainwater puddling by the rear wall.
Or should I have the landscape company stop the brick pavers 18 inches from the rear wall and install rock there so the rainwater on the paver patio has a place to run to and drain into the sandy Florida sub soil?

Advice appreciated.
Thanks

[villagetinker]

Glad you are asking these questions after the rain today i would be surprised if you would not get water in your house due to your proposed changes. Have stated this, check your back yard there may be a drain already installed, if so, I guess you could direct water to this drain. Typically paving bricks or pavers are installed over compacted clay and sand, and then (I forgot the name) material is used to set the bricks or pavers in place. The result is a relatively water-resistant surface, if too much water gets through it will wash away the substrate and you will have problems. While I understand your attempt to limit maintenance you need to be aware we sometimes get rains at 2 inches or more per hour and whatever you are planning needs to take this into account for your property AND YOUR NEIGHBORS PROPERTY. Hurricane IRMA dumped around 15 inches of rain is 24 hours. Personally, I would explore other options, robotic mowers are less expensive than lawn maintenance for example.

[frayedends]

They should be sloping the pavers and adding appropriate drains that are piped to a good drainage location. Something like you see here (diagonally from the middle bottom of photo to the aluminum chair).



Also kudos to you for heading off the "You better get ARC approval" posts. I'm sure someone will still post how it won't be allowed or something. LOL

Edit to add: Tinker is correct. He is thinking of polymeric sand. It is much better than the old stone dust as it helps prevent weeds from growing through. It is almost impermeable to water. I have a low spot on my paver patio here in MA and it gets a puddle that is slow to drain away.

[Calisport]

Look at the plans for your house or order one from your county office and also visit your neighbors yards to see where the main backyard drains are located. The backyard will get very muddy and weeds will grow through the pavers if there is not correct drainage. I don't understand why CYV lots drain to the backyard to begin with.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by Sunnyme

Hello, my wife and I recently purchased a CYV in The Villages and plan to change over the land scaping to make the exterior very low maintenance. We plan to remove all of the grass.
I am aware of the Architectural review process and will submit for approval as required.

Prior to submitting the paperwork, I am looking for some advice and experience on handling runoff water from a brick patio that we plan to install in the back yard.

We plan to have the grass in the back yard replaced with pavers, installed by a reputable landscaping company. One side of the new brick patio will be bordered by the house, two sides of the new brick patio will be bordered by the rear walls and the last remaining side of the paver patio will be 50% bordered by the concrete slab that exists in the back yard just outside of the lanai.

My question is, will the gaps between the brick be enough of a vent to let the rainwater run through the bricks to drain the patio? The landscaper can grade the subsoil so the water runs away from the house, but I would not want to then have the rainwater puddling by the rear wall.
Or should I have the landscape company stop the brick pavers 18 inches from the rear wall and install rock there so the rainwater on the paver patio has a place to run to and drain into the sandy Florida sub soil?

Advice appreciated.
Thanks

They’re usually drain in back yards of CYV (look the grass might over grown it?) Grass, rock, concrete the drain drains overflow when rains hard.

[Ozzello]

There will be one or more drains in your back area. I would have to look at the area to see how to engineer the drainage. Might need an additional drain and outlet depending on the original topography. The space between the pavers allows VERY little drainage, and is there as a buffer to prevent spalling.
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[itphdthinker]

Originally Posted by Sunnyme

Hello, my wife and I recently purchased a CYV in The Villages and plan to change over the land scaping to make the exterior very low maintenance. We plan to remove all of the grass.
I am aware of the Architectural review process and will submit for approval as required.

Prior to submitting the paperwork, I am looking for some advice and experience on handling runoff water from a brick patio that we plan to install in the back yard.

We plan to have the grass in the back yard replaced with pavers, installed by a reputable landscaping company. One side of the new brick patio will be bordered by the house, two sides of the new brick patio will be bordered by the rear walls and the last remaining side of the paver patio will be 50% bordered by the concrete slab that exists in the back yard just outside of the lanai.

My question is, will the gaps between the brick be enough of a vent to let the rainwater run through the bricks to drain the patio? The landscaper can grade the subsoil so the water runs away from the house, but I would not want to then have the rainwater puddling by the rear wall.
Or should I have the landscape company stop the brick pavers 18 inches from the rear wall and install rock there so the rainwater on the paver patio has a place to run to and drain into the sandy Florida sub soil?

Advice appreciated.
Thanks

Do not use Joe's Pavers and Landscaping Design.

[PJ_Smiley]

There is a main drain in the backyard of CYV. Our CYV's main drain is in the back corner (farthest away from lanai near white fence) and the area around it slopes down toward the drain. Our back yard has pavers, landscape walls around planter areas and is all rocked. The concrete patio was removed and replaced with pavers.
The paver area has two drains (end near lanai and one in center/back away from villa and sloped to drain) which feeds into the main drain. Water on the brick pavers feeds into those two drains. On the side with walkway to front of villa (which is concrete), we have 3 downspouts on our villa and two downspouts on next door villa that are all routed underground and tie into the main drain. The landscaper cut the concrete to tie in the down spouts on our villa to the drain with the neighbors downspouts which then flows into the main drain. There is no free flow of water onto concrete or pavers from downspouts; it's all underground. The landscaper filed the cutouts in the concrete with brick pavers, so it looks like a design feature (all evenly spaced). This was all done by previous owner, which is one of the things that helped us decide to buy. I assume the previous owner received permission from the neighbor to run their downspouts directly into the drain underground. I do not know landscaper.