[Calisport]

I just finished all executive courses in the villages and now attempting the rest of the championships courses I haven't played.
Championship courses are too expensive for me. But as I was going there are some really nice exec courses.
To me I agree with some people.
Yankee Clipper, Sweet Gum, Oakleigh, Amberwood, Maybe Truman and Roosevelt at the top
Pelican, Red Fox, Turtle Mound, Loblolly, Chula Vista, Sand Hill are at the bottom for me.

[Flyers999]

I play championship during the week so on the weekend I like to relax- I've had enough punishment , so El Santiago is my first choice. Just played it a few days ago and the greens were in fantastic shape, they just aerated them. The greens are large too with little slope. I always play from the black tees.
I love the way the course gradually gets harder. The first hole is a sandwedge, the next four holes are a pitching wedge, then an eight iron, seven iron, seven iron, and finally a six iron. No water to speak of, or woods, so you'll never lose a ball.
After El Santiago, there's Truman, Amberwood, Saddlebrook, Briarwood.
The worst course is De la Vista. The greens suck, not only are they small and twisted they're in terrible shape. I still like playing the course, for some reason.

[wisbad1]

Originally Posted by Mortal1

Lowlands favorite layout(and has food trucks and beer after the 9th hole). Okeechobee, Escambia, Volusia(closed)and Sarasota. fun layouts and usually in the best condition of all execs. Like playing Truman, Roosevelt, southern star, tarpon boil, sandhill, mangrove, Bogart and Bacall. Most vary in condition, but are all playable for fun. if you're hitting the ball well they all play equally easy. I don't place any emphasis on putting as these courses get tons of play and are rarely seriously puttable.

Play expeditiously and with proper etiquette. Pay attention to the group in front of you and pace yourself with them in mind. Do not practice putting on a green because you have to wait on the next hole...it's impolite. Hit one tee ball only unless you've lost the first. Golf is not about hitting a tee shot till you get one you like. If you have to listen to music...wear bluetooth headphones or earbuds. No one needs to be forced to hear your taste in music.

Many treat the execs are their own personal playground and are inconsiderate and entitled...don't be on of them....please. Play ready golf...play when you have the chance without interfering with your playing partners and be ready when it's your turn.

It’s not the PGA, play to have fun. Play pace so your not behind. Who cares about hitting two tee shots if you’re not holding up play.

[ThirdOfFive]

El Santiago is fun but not serious golf. Not long back I shot 2 under par on it (not hard with those dinner-plate - sized holes) and then got rudely awakened the next day on El Diablo.

Anyway, for better or worse...

MOST CHALLENGING: El Diablo. Lives up (or down) to its name. Fun to play because I never expect to do well on it, so am pleasantly surprised from time to time.

PRETTIEST: Chula Vista. Lots of trees and water. Love the fourth hole where you have to drive over that pond. Not exceptionally challenging except the par-4 eighth hole.

MOST FRUSTRATING: Saddlebrook. Played a round there last month and out of 9 drives I hit EIGHT sand traps. Did get a hole in one there once though, so that sort of makes up for it.

UGLIEST: Silver Lake. First time I played it I commented on it's rather odd layout and proximity to houses. On one the holes (can't remember which one) my wife swatted a drive off a tree in a guy's yard. He was on a ladder doing something or other at the time. I asked him if he minded if we collected my wife's ball. He had no problem with it. While in his yard I observed that his windows were at risk. He grinned, rapped on one and said "Plexiglas!".

MOST BORING: Hawke's Bay. Looks like a pasture.

[Rainger99]

Thank you. I live south of 44 but I am attempting to play some of the north of 466 courses. This will help out!

[Bay Kid]

Darn we are lucky to have so many choices! Some good, some bad.

[PoolBrews]

Originally Posted by Shbullet

My opinion:

Top 5 Southern Star, Yankee Clipper, Trueman, Pelican, Roosevelt

Lots of bottom 5

Well... no... There would only be 5 in the bottom 5. Hence the name "Bottom 5".

[grubberlr]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

I'll have to take your word for it since i doubt I'll bother to play an exec. I guess it depends on one's perspective. Bethpage Black, Muirfield Village, Pinehurst #2 and Pine Valley are hard especially from the tips. More locally, Copperhead, TPC Sawgrass, and PGA National Champions course are hard. Pelican Executive course in the Villages----not so much. But I suppose one could build and executive course with nothing but replicas of the 9 hardest par 3's over 250 yds. from all around the country and it would be quite hard.

I carry 6 clubs 60 54 pw 8i 6i putter, I can assure you pelican from the black tees is a challenge with these clubs.

Give it a try.

jim

[Rainger99]

Originally Posted by grubberlr

I carry 6 clubs 60 54 pw 8i 6i putter, I can assure you pelican from the black tees is a challenge with these clubs.

Give it a try.

jim

Since posting this in July, I have played about 10 executive courses for the first time. Most were north of 466. Lots of courses north of 466!! Hopefully will have played all of the execs by Easter. 44 courses is a lot!!! You can play a different course every week for almost a year!

And I did play pelican based on the recommendations.

I can assure you pelican from the front tees is a challenge!

Thanks for all of the suggestions.

[Bay Kid]

You have to love Pelican! My 1st course played years ago. Not for the faint of heart.

[Rainger99]

Originally Posted by Bay Kid

You have to love Pelican! My 1st course played years ago. Not for the faint of heart.

And you didn't quit??? If that was my first experience, I probably would have stopped playing golf!

[Bay Kid]

Originally Posted by Rainger99

And you didn't quit??? If that was my first experience, I probably would have stopped playing golf!

Great course. You just need to be able to get the ball in the air! Playing from back tees will improve your game.

[Mortal1]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

I'll have to take your word for it since i doubt I'll bother to play an exec. I guess it depends on one's perspective. Bethpage Black, Muirfield Village, Pinehurst #2 and Pine Valley are hard especially from the tips. More locally, Copperhead, TPC Sawgrass, and PGA National Champions course are hard. Pelican Executive course in the Villages----not so much. But I suppose one could build and executive course with nothing but replicas of the 9 hardest par 3's over 250 yds. from all around the country and it would be quite hard.

handicap player...or you just like name dropping. So state champ? North/south champ? quarterfinalist in US am? Or just a wishful thinker?

[Mortal1]

Originally Posted by Bay Kid

Great course. You just need to be able to get the ball in the air! Playing from back tees will improve your game.

it's actually detrimental to game improvement if you have a poor game to begin with. No one really needs the back tees unless they par or birdie most of them. The practice area is the place for game improvement and then it's a test to see if you can bring the range game to the course.

I see waaaay to many men and women play from the tips. They rarely reach the green in regulation and only embarrass themselves in the process. The course is where you put all the practice hard work to the test.

Only someone who "plays" at golf and not a "golfer" would even suggest making it harder makes you better.

[Pairadocs]

Originally Posted by John Mayes

Not to side step the answer but I think there needs to be a distinction between current condition vs course layout and design. A couple of my favorite courses are in pretty bad shape right now.

Definitely agree with you ! Can't be done without making it clear if they are asking about the design, or which are in top condition. As to design (interesting play) I'd say Yankee and S. Star, Truman, Pelican, for less challenge but we think interesting designs we enjoy; Tarpon & Sarasota. But, it is hard to choose.