[dewilson58]

Originally Posted by SHIBUMI

So I asked, what is the best way to get a Pro V1 at a lower price. I was told buy the X-Out
Pro V1. They use them for range balls as well. I asked whats the matter with them. I was told they have passed all the tests, BUT, we were not totaling happy with the paint job. Other companies will take balls that did not pass a test and put a different name on them.

So, no matter what Titleist Product you buy, their quality control/consistency outshines everyone else by a mile.

There is not one Villager who needs to be paying the premium price for ProV's.
It's all marketing and all the Village purchasers are suckers.

[Fastskiguy]

Originally Posted by SHIBUMI

As I toured the Titeist Golf Ball plant I began to wonder why their ball is the best. And yes! It is matter of consistency. Thru out all of their golf ball lines their quality control checks are the highest and most stringent. Other companies would take lower consistent balls and rename them. If a ball does not meet a check point it is tossed. And there are a lot of checkpoints. More costly.

The average player will get more help with a golf lesson than a golf ball change. The ball will not save you anywhere near the strokes that learning better technique will. BUT, the ball is an easier road to maintain your illusion.

Unlike other manufacturers Titleist does not pay their Pros for playing the ball. While other ball manufacturers do. Tiger plays the Bridgestone because it's the best ball in golf,LOL. He has millions of reasons to play it.

Now that being said, the illusion that these balls are just like a Pro V1 is just that, wishful thinking. A Kia isn't a BMW.........

So I asked, what is the best way to get a Pro V1 at a lower price. I was told buy the X-Out
Pro V1. They use them for range balls as well. I asked whats the matter with them. I was told they have passed all the tests, BUT, we were not totaling happy with the paint job. Other companies will take balls that did not pass a test and put a different name on them.

So, no matter what Titleist Product you buy, their quality control/consistency outshines everyone else by a mile. So, if your looking for a long term solution to continually lowering your score, its not the ball or the club, its learning how use them. But, like most folks, it's more fun to stay in an illusion....and manufacturers feed that illusion to stay in business....

Off topic but do all of their balls go thru the same QC or is it just the ProV1? I'm hitting the Titleist Velocity because I like the name and need the lower spin numbers (kinda wild off of the tee if you know what I mean). As it's their low end ball....is it as consistent ball to ball as their premium balls?

Joe

[darkim]

Are you mostly playing at an Executive Course or at Championship Courses?

Some balls have more spin than others and some balls have a softer shell than others. Example - Kirkland balls have reported a much higher spin rate than others, plus they have a softer cover which could damage and effect ball flight on longer holes. BUT ... can't beat the Costco price.

FYI ... there's a great video on YouTube from Titelist ...search "The Titelist Pro V1 Story / 25 years of Innovation"

NOTE: you can get slightly used balls (almost all brands) for very good prices online.

[Philmurtaugh]

Have any of you ever logged into MGGolf.com? You should take a look

[mrf6969]

Swing speeds here in TV are 90 and less. As we get older, any soft balls will do.

[ElDiabloJoe]

Originally Posted by mrf6969

Swing speeds here in TV are 90 and less. As we get older, any soft balls will do.

That's what she said.

[Snakster66]

Originally Posted by mrf6969

Swing speeds here in TV are 90 and less. As we get older, any soft balls will do.

One shouldn't make sweeping generalizations. They're always wrong.

[retiredguy123]

Originally Posted by BrianL99

Move over Kirkland, Sam's is rockin' the boat.

Some may remember the famous Kirkland Golf Ball, that lead to a lawsuit with Titleist. Kirkland (Costco) hasn't sold that ball for years. instead, Kirkland has sold another ball, that's the worst quality ball ever tested, by MyGolfSpy (Just a moment...)

Sam's has just introduced a Member's Mark 3-Piece, Urethane covered golf ball. $27.98 for 2 Dozen.

Just a moment...

Let us know you'''re not a robot - Sam'''s Club

That's a steal for 2 Dozen, Urethane covered golf balls. (You might still be able to buy 2022 Trust (3-Piece, Urethane) on Amazon for about $18/Dozen, when you buy (4))

I know Villagers love a deal!

I remember when Nike was sued years ago for selling a ball that they claimed was the same ball that Tiger Woods used. It wasn't. It made me quit the game.

[SHIBUMI]

Titleist like its golf balls pays for performance.............they don't pay a standard dollar amount contract... you don't get a millions for breathing, you have to earn it.

Originally Posted by BrianL99

That is incorrect.

Titleist has traditionally made the most consistent golf ball and offers close to 10 different variations to PGA Tour players who use Titleist balls.

Titleist absolutely pays players to play their golf ball, although typically not via a "contract" as other manufacturers do.

Titleist works on a "Bonus Pool" type system, with various payments for use of the ball, # of "shots shown on TV", Top 10's, Top 25's, wins, etc.

[SHIBUMI]

No one driving 6,000 miles a year should own a BMW either....... its a choice

Titleist is primarily a golf ball company. Callaway, Taylormade ,Ping, Sxrizon, are primarily golf club companies...... Bridgestone is a tire company that doesn't make rubber golf balls
Kirkland makes food products.

Now, when you look down 100 times at your golf ball, if you look down less your a better golfer. do you want to see a food product, a tire, a Big Bertha or other golf club, or the word that epitomizes the best quality in golf balls, a Titleist. Its your call and the value of that is PRICELESS!

Originally Posted by dewilson58

There is not one Villager who needs to be paying the premium price for ProV's.
It's all marketing and all the Village purchasers are suckers.

[SHIBUMI]

The short answer is yes. They will not put their name on any golf ball (anything)that has not met their quality control.

Velocity...LOL......... years ago I attended a consumer meeting for Wilson Golf Balls. No mention was made of the golf ball quality or how it was made. They passed out a piece of paper and asked everyone, Write down 10 words that would entice you into buying a golf ball.
So we would get......... Straighter , More Distance, Xtra Distance, Long Distance, a softer ball for women and seniors, and thats what they wrote on the boxes. thats marketing
Today you will see more science oriented qualities of golf balls Ai generated etc etc. LOL

Velocity is a word that excites you, it works, the fact that it has the name Titleist on it guarantees it quality.

Titleist biggest asset is the name and it protects it at all costs because it resonates quality. When you hear Callaway, Taylormade, etc your mind doesn't conjure up quality golf balls.

At times I played the Velocity ball, I liked the way it felt off the club face, it felt harder. I changed to a Pro V1 for the to the green shots, drop and stop, and softer putter feel.

I asked what the differences in distance were between golf balls. The answer was 5 yards.

You don't have to play a Pro V1....... But if you want quality and consistency best to play anything that says Titleist on it.......

Originally Posted by Fastskiguy

Off topic but do all of their balls go thru the same QC or is it just the ProV1? I'm hitting the Titleist Velocity because I like the name and need the lower spin numbers (kinda wild off of the tee if you know what I mean). As it's their low end ball....is it as consistent ball to ball as their premium balls?

Joe

[SHIBUMI]

Titleist did pay someone for breathing...........but it wasn't to promote their golf ball...... It was a tribute to a great ball striker, some say the best ever................Mo Norman............ I stand corrected

Originally Posted by SHIBUMI

Titleist like its golf balls pays for performance.............they don't pay a standard dollar amount contract... you don't get a millions for breathing, you have to earn it.

[BrianL99]

Originally Posted by darkim

NOTE: you can get slightly used balls (almost all brands) for very good prices online.

JUNK!


Just a moment...

[lawgolfer]

Originally Posted by Fastskiguy

Off topic but do all of their balls go thru the same QC or is it just the ProV1? I'm hitting the Titleist Velocity because I like the name and need the lower spin numbers (kinda wild off of the tee if you know what I mean). As it's their low end ball....is it as consistent ball to ball as their premium balls?

Joe

The best information I've read about balls in 70years of playing golf, was an interview with a Titleist representative that was published in Golf magazine. He admitted that the differences between the many model made by Titleist were very small. He also admitted that the Velocity was the company's longest ball by a couple of yards. Finally, he explained that the ProV1 and ProV1x performed the best in the performance characteristics desired by most professionals--low spin off the driver; high spin off the wedge; "feel" around the greens; and a satisfying "click" off the putter.

He went on to explain that most golfers will not be aware of these differences. He concluded by recommending that golfers play the different models and choose the one that they were most satisfied with, while doing their best to ignore whether it was a ProV1 or an NXT. My thought after reading the article was that the man was probably fired the day after the magazine was published.

This article got my head straight about golf balls and fits with everything I've experienced from playing with a handicap that has ranged from 5 to 15. For what it is worth, the biggest differences in golf equipment that will have the greatest effect on your game is not the ball, the brand of club, or your shoes--it is the shaft; the material from which the shaft is made; the flex of the shaft; and the place on the shaft where it flexes. I've assembled hundreds of new clubs and changed hundreds of shafts. Currently, there are six men out of my group of 25 who are playing clubs in which I have changed the shafts to meet their individual characteristics or to correct mistakes in their assembly. All have enjoyed great improvement in their average scores. Interestingly, the worst clubs I have had to modify were "custom fitted". The two worst were a set of PXG irons that had a swingweight of C2 and felt like you were trying to hit the ball with a paper bag tied on the end of a stick. The next worst was a set of Ping woods in which the driver was C9; the 3 wood C6; and the 5 wood D6. I couldn't believe that either set had been allowed to leave the factory.

[BrianL99]

Originally Posted by Snakster66

One shouldn't make sweeping generalizations. They're always wrong.

Originally Posted by mrf6969

Swing speeds here in TV are 90 and less. As we get older, any soft balls will do.

mrf6969 is wrong on both counts.

There are plenty of Swing Speeds over 90 in TV and hardly anyone benefits from a "softer ball". It's all about "feel". Some people like the feel of a softer ball, so they use one.

A harder golf ball will travel further, under almost all conditions. The only time that changes, is when spin becomes an issue. (If a player cannot produce sufficient spin to get the ball in the air.)

If I'm not mistaken, you said you play Vice Pro Tour? That ball is recommended for higher swing speeds, but is longer for most swing speeds, than the Vice Pro Soft. Personally, I hit the Tour Pro about 4-5 yards longer than the Pro Soft and my swing speed rarely reaches 90.