DIY plumbing- disconnecting a proprietary valve

[Juliewaters]

I am planning on installing a bidet....but I need to disconnect the valve from the wall that goes to the toilet. I understand that a special tool that disconnects the proprietary valve from the wall is necessary to use so I can install my own valve. Does anyone know where I can get a hold of this tool?

Thanks
Julie

[retiredguy123]

If you are referring to the plastic push-pull valve at the toilet, you don't need a tool. Here is a video that will show you how to remove the valve.

Remove Accor Tech Flowtite Push/Pull Valve - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJOPfBzfSuU)

[EdFNJ]

I just spun them around CCW 4 or 5 times and slightly pulled while doing so and they came right off. Did about 4 so far. Maybe I am just lucky?

[Topspinmo]

I am planning on installing a bidet....but I need to disconnect the valve from the wall that goes to the toilet. I understand that a special tool that disconnects the proprietary valve from the wall is necessary to use so I can install my own valve. Does anyone know where I can get a hold of this tool?

Thanks
Julie

Evidently you seen how to remove shark bite push on valve. They have a release tool, unless you have shark bite brand as mentioned you may have to twists counterclockwise and with slight pressure to uncork the brands installed by the developers in majority of preowned homes. I have no clue what they are installing in recently new homes? If you go to “do it yourself” section you will find several push/pull shut off valve topics that may answer all you’re questions.

[Juliewaters]

Thank you very much

[gatorbill1]

mine would not twist off, but was easy to cut off and place new shutoff turn valve bought at Lowes on pvc left there

[MrFlorida]

Is it PVC or a PEX pipe ? , there is a difference in outside diameter.

[beeneyra]

Hacksaw

[Catalina36]

Those of you who replaced the toilet push pull valves. What valves are you using to replace them??

PVC glued, Shark Bite, or a metal valve with a compression fitting??

Thanks for your reply in advance

[photo1902]

I am planning on installing a bidet....but I need to disconnect the valve from the wall that goes to the toilet. I understand that a special tool that disconnects the proprietary valve from the wall is necessary to use so I can install my own valve. Does anyone know where I can get a hold of this tool?

Thanks
Julie

Having replaced many of the Accor push/pull valves, I’ve never twisted them off. The 1/2” cpvc is way to flimsy to risk it. Instead, I use a mini tubing cutter (you can Google the technique). Once it’s off, prep the new valve by sanding both the remaining pipe from the wall, and the inside of the new valve. You can buy a 1/4 turn valve at Lowe’s or Home Depot. You’ll want the CPVC version, which is secured using CPVC primer and cement. You’ll also have to turn off the water to the house before removing the existing valve, of course.

[Villages Kahuna]

Plumbers have the necessary tools, training and experience. For me, running the risk of the damage a flood in your home would cause isn’t worth the modest savings of DIY. Particularly if you don’t have the necessary tools or experience.

In the case that a flood occurs, do you know where your whole house water shut-off valve is located? Is it readily accessible? An open water pipe at line pressure puts out a huge amount of water each minute.

[sixfootrabbit]

If you are using a bidet toilet seat, there is no reason to disconnect the valve. The seat connects using the flex line that goes into the toilet tank. All you do is shut off the valve and drain the tank. Then you disconnect the tubing where it enters the tank. All of the connections are to that end of the tubing.

[rstebbins]

You can remove the standard push on valves by turning them and applying a slight pull outward. The concern is that you break the glue joint in the wall which is a big issue. To prevent this use a small vice grip on the pipe behind the valve to prevent it from turning and possibly breaking loose the glue joint

[pgettinger01]

These are push on fittings with stainless steel teeth. I was told you can pull and twist it off but it damages the PEX. If you are planning on a using a different fitting use a small hacksaw and cut the plastic fitting and not the PEX.

[pgettinger01]

Are you installing a bidet toilet seat like Luxe? They give you a metal and plastic T connector that attaches to the toilet tank. You use the existing supply line (from the wall) to connect to the down and up part of the T and the bidet supply line for the seat connect to the left and right part of the T. I have the Luxe Bidet Neo 110 for about $30 and it works great.

[Riachka]

Go on YouTube. I installed it myself and YouTube will take you step by step. Try putting in the brand name too. No special tool needed.

[Footer]

I am planning on installing a bidet....but I need to disconnect the valve from the wall that goes to the toilet. I understand that a special tool that disconnects the proprietary valve from the wall is necessary to use so I can install my own valve. Does anyone know where I can get a hold of this tool?

Thanks
Julie

Are you sure you need to remove the valve? I've installed TOTO and COCO bidets and they connect by inserting a T in the existing plumbing.

[Pharmer]

I have installed two Luxe bidets. Maybe I am missing something but it is much easier to disconnect the end of tubing going in to the tank than at the shut off. BTW if you are installing a Luxe be sure to use the metal T and not the plastic one; I learned the hard way.
Pharmer

[Topspinmo]

Having replaced many of the Accor push/pull valves, I’ve never twisted them off. The 1/2” cpvc is way to flimsy to risk it. Instead, I use a mini tubing cutter (you can Google the technique). Once it’s off, prep the new valve by sanding both the remaining pipe from the wall, and the inside of the new valve. You can buy a 1/4 turn valve at Lowe’s or Home Depot. You’ll want the CPVC version, which is secured using CPVC primer and cement. You’ll also have to turn off the water to the house before removing the existing valve, of course.


That’s fine if got enough sticking out do wall.

[Topspinmo]

Those of you who replaced the toilet push pull valves. What valves are you using to replace them??

PVC glued, Shark Bite, or a metal valve with a compression fitting??

Thanks for your reply in advance

I replaced mine with shark bite, very easy and shark bite has release tool. If you have the ability and the equipment PCV glued work great. IMO I don’t like compression style, IMO they tend to seep little causing discoloration and calcium build up. But depend on what you type material working with?

[Topspinmo]

I have installed two Luxe bidets. Maybe I am missing something but it is much easier to disconnect the end of tubing going in to the tank than at the shut off. BTW if you are installing a Luxe be sure to use the metal T and not the plastic one; I learned the hard way.
Pharmer


I agree, probably don’t need to remove the push pull valve for what installing? unless it has problem ( leaking, stuck pull/push valve, or just old and brittle).

[Tankerrich]

I just spun them around CCW 4 or 5 times and slightly pulled while doing so and they came right off. Did about 4 so far. Maybe I am just lucky?
Did the same thing. If not sure, talk to the guys at Home Depot or Lowes. The video helps also. No need to cut PVC pipe, just unscrew counterclockwise like the video shows you. BTW turn off the water and drain the water into a pan. Really not much water once you turn on the sink. WATCH THE VIDEOS.

[photo1902]

That’s fine if got enough sticking out do wall.

If you use the technique myself and others have used, it doesn't matter how much of the CPVC it sticking out of the wall. You're cutting the Accor fitting, not the CPVC. There is absolutely no effect on the CPVC length. I think you're confused in what I recommended.

[Topspinmo]

If you use the technique myself and others have used, it doesn't matter how much of the CPVC it sticking out of the wall. You're cutting the Accor fitting, not the CPVC. There is absolutely no effect on the CPVC length. I think you're confused in what I recommended.

Yes, you’re right, I was thinking you was cutting the pVC pipe, in my house not too much sticking out of the wall.

[casqueglia@gmail.com]

My husband is a very good diy plumber. He doesn’t have a license but he has worked at a plumbing company for years as a salesman. He recently installed a kitchen faucet in our home up north so when we needed one in our new villa he went to Home Depot and bought a faucet. When he looked under the sink he was shocked! It was a “push pull plastic stop. This was not normal. He called a plumber and got the scoop. We had to pay the plumber to change every stop in the house.

[fpmoravcik]

I am planning on installing a bidet....but I need to disconnect the valve from the wall that goes to the toilet. I understand that a special tool that disconnects the proprietary valve from the wall is necessary to use so I can install my own valve. Does anyone know where I can get a hold of this tool?

Thanks
Julie
Do nothing Unless you want to replace the cheap valve which I recommend

[TCNY61]

Do nothing Unless you want to replace the cheap valve which I recommend

Some of the Bidets have a tee connection that is installed at the bottom of the tank, some install the tee at the wall connection.

Those push/pull valves have a couple of rings with teeth that dig in to prevent the water pressure from blowing the valve off. If you just twist and pull the plastic pipe will get chewed up and the next push on valve you put on will have trouble sealing if it uses an oring for a seal. Use a pipe cutter to cut the valve itself (so you don't shorten the pipe) then use tin snips to cut the metal rings with teeth. This way the pipe is untouched and you can use something like a metal valve or tee with a shark bite connection that is removable with a plastic tool.

[Topspinmo]

These are push on fittings with stainless steel teeth. I was told you can pull and twist it off but it damages the PEX. If you are planning on a using a different fitting use a small hacksaw and cut the plastic fitting and not the PEX.


Pex fitting usually are held on by brass ring that crimped to barbed fitting the requires special tool kit to install them correctly. Push/pull push ons are on CPCV plastic tubing. I have removed several and so far never damaged the CPVC tube.