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KJ1325
12-03-2020, 08:42 AM
We are getting close to purchasing a lot. I'm trying to figure out how much a pool is going to cost. I know there's a ton of variables. But I'm curious what 75k gets you compared to 100K. Any pictures would be fantastic. It's almost impossible to work with t&d unless you're further in the process.

tophcfa
12-03-2020, 09:34 AM
We are getting close to purchasing a lot. I'm trying to figure out how much a pool is going to cost. I know there's a ton of variables. But I'm curious what 75k gets you compared to 100K. Any pictures would be fantastic. It's almost impossible to work with t&d unless you're further in the process.

Three years ago $63K got us a beautiful 12x24 concrete salt water pool that is 3.5 to 5.5 feet deep. The pool has two waterfalls, led underwater lights, auto level water feature, a couple of rows of tile around the pool, solar heat as well as a heat pump, a pool cover that can be easily rolled up and is stored inside the pool deck, and a wireless Bluetooth device that controls all the pools functions. Included in the cost was everything turn key including re-sodding the lawn and new irrigation where things had to be moved. It also included a beautiful birdcage and deck that runs the entire length of the back of our house with a door on each side, and a hose bib and electrical outlet in the birdcage. T&D was our contractor and I would highly recommend them despite the wait. Good Luck.

graciegirl
12-03-2020, 09:42 AM
We are getting close to purchasing a lot. I'm trying to figure out how much a pool is going to cost. I know there's a ton of variables. But I'm curious what 75k gets you compared to 100K. Any pictures would be fantastic. It's almost impossible to work with t&d unless you're further in the process.

We added a bath and a birdcage from T&D. Vera offered us several different options in price. I am very conservative with money. Members of my family who love me call me close to miserly. I saw the plans and chose the lesser priced one. My husband who is also a careful person with money said, NO. For once we are going to get the larger option. We can afford it and we are going to enjoy it. And we did. I am so glad. It is a constant source of enjoyment to the three of us. To bathe in and look out on and sit next to. Plus our two kitties are in heaven walking around it and looking out at the butterflies and birds and catching an occasional gecko.

Message me for the price.

kathyspear
12-03-2020, 08:06 PM
Gracie, your pool is lovely!

We have gotten two estimates so far. One was mid- to high 50's, the other mid- to high 60's. Materials for the latter are higher end (i.e. pavers instead of composite decking). Still trying to decide if we want to invest that much money in our house. Decisions. Decisions.

kathy

villagetinker
12-03-2020, 08:13 PM
IMHO, move into your house, see how the local pools are and possibly save yourself $$$$$. We have 4 pools within 1 mile of our house. This made our decision very easy, a hot tub on the lanai was our solution, and the local pools when we want to.

Kenswing
12-03-2020, 08:17 PM
We are getting close to purchasing a lot. I'm trying to figure out how much a pool is going to cost. I know there's a ton of variables. But I'm curious what 75k gets you compared to 100K. Any pictures would be fantastic. It's almost impossible to work with t&d unless you're further in the process.
We'll be going through the design process here shortly. Our designer says the average pool price during construction is about $60,000. Although pools of $100k+ aren't uncommon.

Just make sure when you select a lot that it is big enough for a pool. They actually provided us with a CAD drawing of our lot with our house and pool placed on it before we put down our deposit..

tophcfa
12-03-2020, 08:31 PM
Gracie, your pool is lovely!

We have gotten two estimates so far. One was mid- to high 50's, the other mid- to high 60's. Materials for the latter are higher end (i.e. pavers instead of composite decking). Still trying to decide if we want to invest that much money in our house. Decisions. Decisions.

kathy

We waited over two years after buying our house before having our pool built. We wanted to be certain it was our forever Villages home before making the significant investment. We are so happy we finally pulled the trigger, it adds so much pleasure to our home. I would advise you to not go with pavers. They are a long term maintenance headache. They have too many spaces in between for unwanted stuff to collect and sprout weeds, and they become uneven and pose a tripping hazard over time. A flat surface that can be easily cleaned and maintained is the way to go. Good luck with whatever you decide to go with.

Juliebythesea
12-04-2020, 06:11 AM
Call staycation pools Danny the owner is as nice as can be he’s doing lots of pools in my area south of 466A

Rwirish
12-04-2020, 06:17 AM
TV has almost 100 pools. Use them, much cheaper.

banjobob
12-04-2020, 06:41 AM
IMHO, move into your house, see how the local pools are and possibly save yourself $$$$$. We have 4 pools within 1 mile of our house. This made our decision very easy, a hot tub on the lanai was our solution, and the local pools when we want to.

Good answer with so many pools close to most homes the cost of installation and maintenance of a large pool is a serious consideration.

Bhighley
12-04-2020, 07:07 AM
We are getting close to purchasing a lot. I'm trying to figure out how much a pool is going to cost. I know there's a ton of variables. But I'm curious what 75k gets you comparedo to 100K. Any pictures would be fantastic. It's almost impossible to work with t&d unless you're further in the process.

A pool will be at least $60k. If you can afford it, build a nice pool and enjoy it. If you can’t afford a pool, visit one of the many community pools in the villages...

Get bids from a few companies. I’d stay away from T&D, very basic/cheap construction

Get a heat pump instead of a gas heater. Make sure you get a salt pool and some automation. You may want to add some water features for aesthetics and road noise reduction. Choose a nice water line tile.

oemsp1
12-04-2020, 07:40 AM
What about the open wound crowd....

TandHSTAR@AOL.com
12-04-2020, 07:46 AM
Do not see anyone posting regular maintenance after installation. Another cost factir to think about.

sentry
12-04-2020, 07:56 AM
What is the cost to keep up a pool?

JSR22
12-04-2020, 07:58 AM
We had Fiesta Pools of Ocala put in our pool 6 years ago. My husband and I agree it was worth every dollar. We use it constantly, especially at night when all TV pools are closed. We pay T&D $130 per month to maintain the pool and that includes vacuuming, cleaning the tiles, balancing the water, washing the filter and the chemicals. The privacy is wonderful. Highly recommend for residents to put in their own pool.

photo1902
12-04-2020, 07:58 AM
Do not see anyone posting regular maintenance after installation. Another cost factir to think about.

Much less if you do it yourself. Whether you test the water yourself, or take a sample to T&D to have them analyze it, you'll save a bunch. I would estimate I spend less than $200 for the year in supplies to maintain my salt water pool.

And for the posts about just using one of the neighborhood pools, you simply cannot beat having your own pool. My wife and I went to the local pool a few times before having our pool built, and suffice it to say, I'd never go back to one.

PoolBrews
12-04-2020, 08:12 AM
We went with Premier Pools of Central Florida. We had 6 estimate (including T&D), and Premier was the only company that properly sized the filter, the salt water generator (SWG), and the heat pump. They also included several major upgrades (pavers, wet edge finish) and were still considerably lower than our other estimates. They completed the pool on time (Novermber last year), and it has been fantastic!

Be careful of water features - they look great initially, but most folks don't enjoy them as much over time. In addition, running any water feature will raise pH in the pool quite a bit, so you'll be adding muriatic acid much more frequently than you normally would.

NavyVet
12-04-2020, 11:18 AM
We had Fiesta Pools of Ocala put in our pool 6 years ago. My husband and I agree it was worth every dollar. We use it constantly, especially at night when all TV pools are closed. We pay T&D $130 per month to maintain the pool and that includes vacuuming, cleaning the tiles, balancing the water, washing the filter and the chemicals. The privacy is wonderful. Highly recommend for residents to put in their own pool.

I feel the same way. As residents since 2003, we made do with TV pools the first 10 years, then I had to give up on finding decent Lap Swim times at the sports pools and heaven forbid you try to 'swim' at the neighborhood 'pools'. We ended up buying our third house in 2017 so I could have my own pool. Best. Move. Ever. We had solar panels put in and use it a lot. Can't beat the privacy and convenience. T&D comes every week and takes care of everything, both the pool and the hot tub we added. We LOVE our staycation oasis!

NavyVet
12-04-2020, 11:22 AM
We added a bath and a birdcage from T&D. Vera offered us several different options in price. I am very conservative with money. Members of my family who love me call me close to miserly. I saw the plans and chose the lesser priced one. My husband who is also a careful person with money said, NO. For once we are going to get the larger option. We can afford it and we are going to enjoy it. And we did. I am so glad. It is a constant source of enjoyment to the three of us. To bathe in and look out on and sit next to. Plus our two kitties are in heaven walking around it and looking out at the butterflies and birds and catching an occasional gecko.

Message me for the price.

Gracie, gorgeous pool! I especially like the columns of your bird cage, looks very elegant.

NavyVet
12-04-2020, 11:31 AM
TV has almost 100 pools. Use them, much cheaper.

Yea right. 100 "pools" in TV and not a single one of them are for actual, you know, "swimming." Sports pools are full all day with aerobics classes and volleyball and the rest are full of walkers or standing around comparing aches, pains, illnesses or surgeries. No thanks.

DecaturFargo
12-04-2020, 01:12 PM
Use Wiseman. We added solar just for the pool. It cost about $4200. Absolutely, worth it! We had T&D for pool maitenance, but they didn't service Pentair pool equipment, so we got rid of them. We use Tri-County Pools. Love them. Call Superior Solar. Tell them we sent you. Rochelle Larson

Bogie Shooter
12-04-2020, 01:53 PM
What about the open wound crowd....

Just give them an invitation to your new pool.:icon_wink:

dewilson58
12-04-2020, 01:56 PM
Get bids from a few companies. I’d stay away from T&D, very basic/cheap construction

:bigbow:

photo1902
12-04-2020, 04:46 PM
:bigbow:

Absolute BS. I could list a dozen or more positive, personal experiences using T&D for our pool, but I won’t stoop to the level of this post.

dewilson58
12-04-2020, 04:51 PM
Absolute BS. I could list a dozen or more positive, personal experiences using T&D for our pool, but I won’t stoop to this comment.
:shrug: Not sure what you think is BS, but I was being nice by JUST supporting the poster's comment to stay away from T&D.

dewilson58
12-04-2020, 05:13 PM
Oh, okay...........jus sign off. Bye Bye

Bogie Shooter
12-04-2020, 05:17 PM
Much less if you do it yourself. Whether you test the water yourself, or take a sample to T&D to have them analyze it, you'll save a bunch. I would estimate I spend less than $200 for the year in supplies to maintain my salt water pool.

And for the posts about just using one of the neighborhood pools, you simply cannot beat having your own pool. My wife and I went to the local pool a few times before having our pool built, and suffice it to say, I'd never go back to one.

I have a similar experience.

Kahuna32162
12-04-2020, 05:29 PM
We are in our 2nd pre owned home in TV, both with existing pools in place. While neighborhood pools may be adequate for some folks, they are breading grounds for all sorts of water Bourne issues. Some folks are rude and very territorial in how they treat new folks.
If I had to do it from scratch, I would avoid pavers and use a gas supplemental heater to boast when solar is not enough. We also use T&D to maintain the pool weekly and have been very happy with them.

jojo
12-04-2020, 06:05 PM
T&D built and services our pool. 12 1/2 years without a problem. Quality all the way with both the pool and birdcage.

graciegirl
12-04-2020, 06:07 PM
:bigbow:

In all the times I have read dewilson, I can only think of a couple of times we disagreed. We had an amazing team from T&D, actually two teams, one for the pool and the other for the bath, pillars, birdcage. I liked one better than another but both teams, headed by two people and their business ethics and design experience and work ethic are very praise worthy. We could have had it done cheaper but I doubt better. I was so impressed by the skill and diligence of almost all of the subs. One Not so much. But I know how to handle people pretty well.

HIgolfers
12-04-2020, 06:37 PM
I feel the same way. As residents since 2003, we made do with TV pools the first 10 years, then I had to give up on finding decent Lap Swim times at the sports pools and heaven forbid you try to 'swim' at the neighborhood 'pools'. We ended up buying our third house in 2017 so I could have my own pool. Best. Move. Ever. We had solar panels put in and use it a lot. Can't beat the privacy and convenience. T&D comes every week and takes care of everything, both the pool and the hot tub we added. We LOVE our staycation oasis!

You must have a huge pool if you can swim laps in it!

tophcfa
12-04-2020, 06:51 PM
In all the times I have read dewilson, I can only think of a couple of times we disagreed. We had an amazing team from T&D, actually two teams, one for the pool and the other for the bath, pillars, birdcage. I liked one better than another but both teams, headed by two people and their business ethics and design experience and work ethic are very praise worthy. We could have had it done cheaper but I doubt better. I was so impressed by the skill and diligence of almost all of the subs. One Not so much. But I know how to handle people pretty well.

I agree with Grace about the quality and professionalism of T&D. After watching the various groups of contractors throughout the building process, I was amazed at what went into the project and how efficient they are. Everything is done on a well organized schedule and I couldn’t believe how many different teams of contractors were part of the job. Each team specializes in a very specific function of the overall job, and are craftsman in their part of the process. Everything is overseen by a job foreman and the customer has his private cell phone number. He returns all calls promptly, and when he makes the call for the next group of subcontractors to show up, they show up almost immediately. I thought we were paying a premium for the job, but after witnessing everything that went into the project I was certain we made the correct decision. I am a picky individual and expect excellence when spending large sums of money, and T&D did not disappoint.

dewilson58
12-04-2020, 07:08 PM
In all the times I have read dewilson, I can only think of a couple of times we disagreed. We had an amazing team from T&D, actually two teams, one for the pool and the other for the bath, pillars, birdcage. I liked one better than another but both teams, headed by two people and their business ethics and design experience and work ethic are very praise worthy. We could have had it done cheaper but I doubt better. I was so impressed by the skill and diligence of almost all of the subs. One Not so much. But I know how to handle people pretty well.
:clap2::clap2::clap2:
I'm so glad you had a good experience with them years ago.
But if a newbie Gracie came to me today, I would NOT recommend them.


:MOJE_whot:

photo1902
12-04-2020, 07:48 PM
In all the times I have read dewilson, I can only think of a couple of times we disagreed. We had an amazing team from T&D, actually two teams, one for the pool and the other for the bath, pillars, birdcage. I liked one better than another but both teams, headed by two people and their business ethics and design experience and work ethic are very praise worthy. We could have had it done cheaper but I doubt better. I was so impressed by the skill and diligence of almost all of the subs. One Not so much. But I know how to handle people pretty well.

My experience exactly. T&D can’t be beat as far as quality, customer service, and follow up work. You get what you pay for, and I, for one, couldn’t be happier with them.

dewilson58
12-04-2020, 07:59 PM
Just to be clear........................I'm glad a few fellow posters had a good experience 5, 10, 12 years ago. Things change. My recommendation to the OP is to get CURRENT recommendations, what happened five years ago does not matter. I totally agree, they were the best years ago, but it's today. Eyes open. :ho:

tophcfa
12-04-2020, 08:17 PM
Just to be clear........................I'm glad a few fellow posters had a good experience 5, 10, 12 years ago. Things change. My recommendation to the OP is to get CURRENT recommendations, what happened five years ago does not matter. I totally agree, they were the best years ago, but it's today. Eyes open. :ho:

Dewi, are you talking about T&D Pool and Spa Construction or the post Gary Morse developer squad?

photo1902
12-04-2020, 08:39 PM
Dewi, are you talking about T&D Pool and Spa Construction or the post Gary Morse developer squad?

Who knows what he means. We had them build a pool for us in 2016, and they’ve been nothing short of outstanding as far as maintenance and support to date. Even providing care after the warranty period expired.

To each their own

kathyspear
12-04-2020, 09:18 PM
TV has almost 100 pools. Use them, much cheaper.

When I was inquiring about Medicare plans some people suggested Advantage because they include a health club membership. I know myself well enough to know that I would NEVER use a health club membership, free or not. Same goes for neighborhood pools.

We have lived in homes with pools and in pool-less homes with community pools. NEVER used the community pools and I know I won't here, either. Doesn't matter why, just that I know I won't.

So the issue is: Do I want to spend $60-75k on a pool knowing that if we sell the house we will never recover most of that money? (I don't plan to move again but I have said that before!) Will we get enough use/enjoyment out of the pool to spend the money anyway? I go back and forth. I wish hubs was dying to get the pool so I could just let him decide. :)

k.

Northerner52
12-05-2020, 05:33 AM
T&D put my 12x24 with Bird Cage, LED, Gas heater and swim jets for $70K. Excellent quality. All with Hayward equip. Went with them even though Fiesta was 10% cheaper because they didn't include landscaping, sprinkler, gas hookup, permits etc. I was going to have to pay subcontractors separate like the bird cage. T&D is sole vendor. Heard horror stories about All Season and Wiseman. Good references from Staycation and they don't have much of a wait. Hear T&D is a year out for quotes.

graciegirl
12-05-2020, 07:33 AM
Who knows what he means, and more importantly, who cares. We had them build a pool for us in 2016, and they’ve been nothing short of outstanding as far as maintenance and support to date. Even providing care after the warranty period expired.

To each their own

I care what he means. He had a valid problem or he would not share it. Dewilson is a reliable and honest person.

Sometimes things go wrong.

photo1902
12-05-2020, 07:40 AM
I care what he means. He had a valid problem or he would not share it. Dewilson is a reliable and honest person.

Sometimes things go wrong.

Then quit being vague and share what went wrong. I don’t personally know posters on this forum, so I cant speak to anyone’s character, nor should I.

The OP asked about costs of pool construction, and has been given many opinions. Nothing more nothing less. And yes, things go wrong, but things also go right, which has been my experience with T&D, having used them for three separate projects.

cj1040
12-05-2020, 10:41 AM
We are building...close mid Feb. Our 12 x 25 pool by at and D costs 64 k ..4.5 deep with sun beach 18 in deep at one end, decorative tile and waterfall. Decking and birdcage with denser screening for bug and sunburn prevention included. We want to do water aerobics on our own schedule and float around on floats if we want and with covid it is just safer and adds to the house value now.

cj1040
12-05-2020, 10:47 AM
We'll be going through the design process here shortly. Our designer says the average pool price during construction is about $60,000. Although pools of $100k+ aren't uncommon.

Just make sure when you select a lot that it is big enough for a pool. They actually provided us with a CAD drawing of our lot with our house and pool placed on it before we put down our deposit..
We are building...close mid Feb. Our 12 x 25 pool by T and D costs 64 k ..4.5 deep with sun beach 18 in deep at one end, decorative tile and waterfall. Decking and birdcage with denser screening for bug and sunburn prevention included. We want to do water aerobics on our own schedule and float around on floats if we want and with covid it is just safer and adds to the house value now. Also saltwater pool with roll up cover and heat pump included

cj1040
12-05-2020, 11:01 AM
We like the pool classes at TV but they line up and get counted to enter and if you are not there early you may not get in....also the neighborhood pools are a great way to meet neighbors. We have rented for a month at TV for 6 years and are now building in chitty on a pond with a pool even though we are a 5 minute walk to the neighborhood pool. We can do our own class with music in our own pool, use our lounge floats and still go to the other places whenever we want which I will do after the virus settles down. It adds value to the house.

cj1040
12-05-2020, 11:04 AM
We are building...close mid Feb. Our 12 x 25 pool by T and D costs 64 k ..4.5 deep with sun beach 18 in deep at one end, decorative tile and waterfall. Decking and birdcage with denser screening for bug and sunburn prevention included. We want to do water aerobics on our own schedule and float around on floats if we want and with covid it is just safer and adds to the house value now. Also saltwater pool with roll up cover and heat pump included[/QUOTE]

dewilson58
12-05-2020, 12:02 PM
I care what he means. He had a valid problem or he would not share it. Dewilson is a reliable and honest person.

Sometimes things go wrong.
Thanks
Don't waste your time with 12 (you can dew the math)............If someone does not agree with this kind of poster, they don't care and the someone is wrong.

Again............I'm glad you had a good experience, I'm glad you shared it and glad you recommend T&D. :ho:

kathyspear
12-05-2020, 02:40 PM
Has anyone had their home appraised with and without their pool? I suspect a pool might add more value in an area like this than in some others. I also know that you don't make a decision like this based solely or even primarily on expected return, but rather how much enjoyment you will get out of it. Still, it would be nice to have some numbers when making the decision.

k.

KJ1325
12-06-2020, 03:35 PM
We are building...close mid Feb. Our 12 x 25 pool by at and D costs 64 k ..4.5 deep with sun beach 18 in deep at one end, decorative tile and waterfall. Decking and birdcage with denser screening for bug and sunburn prevention included. We want to do water aerobics on our own schedule and non around on floats if we want and with covid it is just safer and adds to the house value now.

Did your pool for that price include any solar heat or gas heat?

Thanks

rustyp
12-06-2020, 03:51 PM
Pools are a lot like boats. Best two days are the day you buy the boat and the day you sell the boat. Problem with a pool is you have the baggage of selling the house to get rid of the pool. Get rid of your self conscience and use one of 100 plus pools here - no maintenance. If worried about a crowd purchase a yearly pass to a Country Club pool. Most of the time I cruise by them other than Orange Blossom and Hacienda there are vacant.

tophcfa
12-06-2020, 09:21 PM
Pools are a lot like boats. Best two days are the day you buy the boat and the day you sell the boat. Problem with a pool is you have the baggage of selling the house to get rid of the pool. Get rid of your self conscience and use one of 100 plus pools here - no maintenance. If worried about a crowd purchase a yearly pass to a Country Club pool. Most of the time I cruise by them other than Orange Blossom and Hacienda there are vacant.

The Hacienda pool is without any doubt vacant, because it no longer exists.

Kenswing
12-09-2020, 03:12 PM
Just another heads up. If you want a fiberglass hot tub it isn't going to happen. The supplier The Villages uses is back ordered until at least August.

Also take into account that your pool has to be one foot away from your roof line for every foot of depth. So if you want a six foot deep pool it will be six feet out from your roof line.

Fenney5776
12-12-2020, 04:37 PM
:shrug: Not sure what you think is BS, but I was being nice by JUST supporting the poster's comment to stay away from T&D.

We're in the process of getting a quote from T&D. Had an hour long meeting with the recently and followed up with an email to recap our requirements. Received our quote and drawing. They had at least 6 mistakes in the drawing which would then also be reflected in the quote. We've dealt with three different folks on the design. They seem to be very overworked and disorganized. We're not feeling very confident in their current services.