I Like Beer

[JimJohnson]

Yes, I am a beer lover, but as I age, I am more concerned about calories, carbohydrates and the alcohol content.
I have been seeing commercials about a new beer called Michelob Ultra Pure Gold. Well, my thought were, yea right, another even lighter beer. My fellow beer lovers, this beer has 2.5 carbs, 85 cal and only 3.8% Alcohol By Volume.
Now, for the good part, it has the hearty flavor I look for in better beers with twice those statistics. Now I have finally found a beer that won’t be harmful that I like the taste of.

[Chatbrat]

Heineken has come out with a zero alcohol--I, don't drink beer but buy one & take a test drive

[JimJohnson]

Heineken has come out with a zero alcohol--I, don't drink beer but buy one & take a test drive
Good idea, but I do like a small relaxation buzz, without the ill effects of stronger alcohol.:ho:

[retiredguy123]

Yes, I am a beer lover, but as I age, I am more concerned about calories, carbohydrates and the alcohol content.
I have been seeing commercials about a new beer called Michelob Ultra Pure Gold. Well, my thought were, yea right, another even lighter beer. My fellow beer lovers, this beer has 2.5 carbs, 85 cal and only 3.8% Alcohol By Volume.
Now, for the good part, it has the hearty flavor I look for in better beers with twice those statistics. Now I have finally found a beer that won’t be harmful that I like the taste of.
It's not much different from Michelob Ultra, 95 calories, 2.6 carbs, and 4.2 percent alcohol. I often wonder if Michelob Ultra tried to copy Miller Lite, which has about same calories and alcohol content. Michelob is good, but I still prefer Miller Lite.

[JimJohnson]

It's not much different from Michelob Ultra, 95 calories, 2.6 carbs, and 4.2 percent alcohol. I often wonder if Michelob Ultra tried to copy Miller Lite, which has about same calories and alcohol content. Michelob is good, but I still prefer Miller Lite.

Possibly! This Pure Gold tastes more like a dark beer than does the original Ultra. Anyway, I like it and should be able to drink four without a hangover. As I said in the start, I like beer, but don’t want the I’ll effects of stronger Alcohol Content.:coolsmiley

[New Englander]

I like beer too. I switched from regular Budweiser to Bush Light. It's tastes pretty darn good and it's less expensive than many other brands.

[vintageogauge]

It's winter, time for white whiskey, brown shoes, and red meat.

[Two Bills]

Rather a half pint of good ale, than a pint of weak beer.

[Heyitsrick]

I like beer, too, but have given up regular alcohol for a while. I had been drinking IPAs, so I wanted to find a non-alcohol IPA if such a thing existed. I got lucky - there's a brewing company called "Athletic" that makes a non-alcohol IPA that's pretty darn good for non-alcohol. It's called "Run Wild". They've got about 3 other NA beers, but this is the IPA style.

If you like IPAs and want to enjoy one without having to worry about the buzz, give it a shot. Only 70 calories.

[elevatorman]

Try Guinness 95 calories, 2.6g carbs, 4.2% ABV. Also look here The Best Low-Carb Beers You Can Drink on the Keto Diet | Health.com (https://www.health.com/weight-loss/best-low-carb-beer-keto)

[crash]

Rather a half pint of good ale, than a pint of weak beer.

Here Hear.

I like beers with flavor like brown ales porters and stouts.

Ultra has an amber version but still pretty tasteless

[Joseph524]

All of you beer lovers could brew your own beer. You can control flavor and alcohol content. There is a home brew club in The Villages. We have a Facebook page that we are starting up.

Go to The Villages Home Brewers Club - Home | Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/TheVillagesHomebrewersclub)

or email villageshombrewersclub@gmail.com

[jacksonbrown]

None of the popular lite beers are top rated, all have similar ABVs, carbs and calories, so why not buy whatever tastes good to you and is on sale. :beer3:

Top 250 Rated Beers | BeerAdvocate (https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/top-rated/)

[Bleudeturquoise]

Just remember

"In heaven there is no beer"
"That's why we drink it here"

[DeanFL]

thanks for the tip. I tend to prefer a darker flavorful beer - fav is Sam Adams, but typically have Yuengling Black&Tan. I would like to limit cals&carbs, even with having only 1 bottle every day or so. I will try Michelob Ultra Pure Gold...better not taste like peewater JJ...

[New Englander]

If you want to try a very "potent" IPA. Go to Aldi's and get a six pack of "Wild Range IPA". It's not for those who want a non alcohol or weak tasting type of Ale.
https://www.aldi.us/fileadmin/_processed_/6/5/csm_081915_R_48241_WildRange_IndiaPaleAle_detail_4 b841662be.jpg

[karostay]

Rather a half pint of good ale, than a pint of weak beer.

:bigbow::bigbow: Or a IPA

[karostay]

thanks for the tip. I tend to prefer a darker flavorful beer - fav is Sam Adams, but typically have Yuengling Black&Tan. I would like to limit cals&carbs, even with having only 1 bottle every day or so. I will try Michelob Ultra Pure Gold...better not taste like peewater JJ...


What's pee water taste like ?

[CWGUY]

What's pee water taste like ?

:shrug:

[Two Bills]

What's pee water taste like ?

Bud Lite! :icon_wink:

[karostay]

Bud Lite! :icon_wink:


I think pee water would be a up grade in taste compared to
Bud anything

[rhart]

Yes, I am a beer lover, but as I age, I am more concerned about calories, carbohydrates and the alcohol content.
I have been seeing commercials about a new beer called Michelob Ultra Pure Gold. Well, my thought were, yea right, another even lighter beer. My fellow beer lovers, this beer has 2.5 carbs, 85 cal and only 3.8% Alcohol By Volume.
Now, for the good part, it has the hearty flavor I look for in better beers with twice those statistics. Now I have finally found a beer that won’t be harmful that I like the taste of.
I rarely post here and I'm not a religious zealot and literally don't care if you drink until you fall down every night (just stay off the road) but I couldn't leave this alone.....
Alcohol at Any Dose Can Increase Cancer Risk
A review article on alcohol and cancer in the Journal of the American Medical Association shows that alcohol at any dose can increase risk for cancer (Jan 7, 2020;323(1):23-24). Compared to non-drinkers, people who take one or two drinks per day for one year are at increased risk for cancer (Cancer, December 9, 2019), and drinking even one glass of wine a day raises the risk of cancer of the throat, esophagus, liver, colon, rectum and breast (Addiction, Jul 21, 2016). The more you drink, the greater your risk for developing these cancers. Alcohol has also been associated with cancers of the skin (Am J Clin Nutr, Nov 2015;102(5):1158-66), prostate and pancreas. A review of 27 studies showed that taking up to two drinks a day is associated with a 23 percent increased risk for prostate cancer (BMC Cancer, Nov 5, 2016). A review of 222 scientific papers that followed 92,000 light drinkers and 60,000 non-drinkers showed that taking just one alcoholic drink a day is associated with increased risk for cancer of the mouth and throat, esophagus and breast (Annals of Oncology, Feb 2013; 24(2):301-308). Thirty-seven percent of North American adults take one or two drinks a day. Several studies show that mouth, throat and liver cancer patients who stop drinking have a reduced chance of recurrence of their cancers compared to those who continue to drink.

The World Health Organization and the American Institute for Cancer Research recommend not drinking any alcohol. A review of more than 700 studies involving millions of people in 195 countries found that "No level of alcohol consumption improves health" (Lancet, Sept 22, 2018;392(10152):987-988). A review of 83 prospective studies showed that alcohol is also associated with increased risk for stroke, heart failure, fatal hypertensive disease, and fatal aortic aneurysms; and the more alcohol you drink, the more likely you are to die prematurely (Lancet, 2018;391(10129):1513-1523). The United States Public Health Service says that alcohol kills more than 88,000 people in the United States each year, and shortened the lives of those who died by an average of 30 years. Alcohol also causes one in 10 deaths among working-age adults aged 20-64 years, and the health damage it causes costs $223.5 billion, or about $1.90 per drink.

Alcohol Industry Tactics
The alcohol industry downplays the cancer risks of their products in the same way that the tobacco industry did 70 years ago. A study from the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine and Sweden's Karolinska Institutet analyzed the websites of almost 30 alcohol industry organizations between September and December 2016 and found that most showed incredible "distortion, denying, distraction and misrepresentation" of evidence associating alcohol with cancer, specifically the abundant data of alcohol's association with breast and colon cancers (Drug and Alcohol Review, September 7, 2017).

The alcohol industry claims that moderate drinking is safe, yet 30 percent of all alcohol–related deaths are caused by cancer, with 60 percent of these deaths from breast cancer. One third of these deaths were associated with an average of fewer than two drinks a day (Drug Alcohol Rev, June 16, 2016).

Moderate Drinking Has Not Been Shown to Help Prevent Heart Attacks
For many years the wine, beer and alcoholic beverage industries have promoted studies showing that a drink or two of alcohol can help to prevent heart attacks, yet drinking alcohol regularly is associated with high blood pressure, heart failure, strokes and sudden death. In the studies cited by the alcohol industry, more than half of the people in the "non-drinker" groups were recovering alcoholics or people who had been told to stop drinking because they had already suffered from diseases related to drinking, such as liver, heart or kidney disease, high blood pressure, heart attacks, certain cancers, alcoholism, or stomach ulcers (J Stud on Alc and Drugs, March 2016;77(2):185–198). When people with alcohol-related diseases were removed from the abstainer control groups, the data showed that moderate drinkers did not have a lower incidence of heart attacks than the non-drinkers.

Researchers at the University of Victoria in British Columbia reviewed 54 studies and found that only seven of those studies had corrected their non-drinking population for people who had been told to stop drinking for health reasons (Addiction Research and Theory, April 2006). The Canadian researchers re-analyzed 47 studies that associated wine or other alcohol with a longer life and decreased risk for heart attacks. When the studies were corrected to remove the people who had been ordered to stop drinking for health reasons, they found no advantage in death rate between moderate drinkers and those who did not drink at all. Another study from England followed 53,000 men and women over 50 for 6-10 years and found that alcohol consumption had no demonstrable health benefit and did not reduce risk of death during the study period (British Medical Journal, February 10, 2015).

People who take in just one drink a day are at significantly increased risk for an enlarged upper heart and irregular heartbeats called atrial fibrillation that can cause clots and strokes, compared to non-drinkers (J Am Heart Assoc, Sep 14, 2016;5:e004060), and abstaining from alcohol use reduces the incidence of irregular heartbeats in people who have atrial fibrillation (N Engl J Med, Jan 2, 2020; 382:20-28).

How Alcohol Can Lead to Cancer
Alcohol can damage every cell in your body. Your liver is the only organ that can break down significant amounts of alcohol, and it can typically break down less than an ounce in an hour. The alcohol is first converted to acetaldehyde, which is even more damaging to your cells than alcohol. Acetaldehyde can cause cancer by damaging DNA and stopping your cells from healing from this damage. The highest risk for alcohol-induced cancer is in your mouth and throat because some bacteria there are able to convert ethanol directly into acetaldehyde. Alcohol damages cells to produce Reactive Oxygen Species (ROS) that can alter DNA to cause cancer. Alcohol reaches the colon, rectum and liver later, so the link between these cancers and alcohol is not as strong.

Other Unhealthful Habits Increase Cancer Risk from Alcohol
Smoking, being overweight, eating an unhealthful diet or not exercising all markedly increase risk for alcohol-related cancers. The risk for cancers of the mouth, throat and esophagus is much higher if you both drink and smoke than if you use either alcohol or tobacco alone, and the more you drink and smoke, the greater your risk (Int J Cancer, 2011;128:533-540).

Alcohol Increases Risk of Permanent Liver Damage
Drinking alcohol regularly increases risk for permanent liver damage called cirrhosis (Journal of Hepatology, January 26, 2015). Wine is associated with a lower risk for liver damage than beer or liquor. The authors of this study warn that older drinkers are more likely to have health conditions affected by alcohol or to take medicines that impair their ability to metabolize alcohol.

Definition of a Drink
In all of the studies and reports mentioned here, a "drink" is defined as the amount that takes an average person's liver one hour to clear half the alcohol from the bloodstream. However, this can vary with body weight, sex, age, metabolic rate, recent food intake, the type and strength of the alcohol, and any medication you take. Typically, one drink contains 0.6 ounces (14.0 grams or 1.2 tablespoons) of pure alcohol, the amount found in:
• 12 ounces of beer (5% alcohol content)
• 8 ounces of malt liquor (7% alcohol content)
• 5 ounces of wine (12% alcohol content)
• 1.5 ounces of 80-proof liquor (40% alcohol content, e.g., gin, rum, vodka, whiskey)

My Recommendations
Many people have the mistaken belief that it is safe for women to take up to one drink per day and for men to take up to two drinks per day. Almost 30 percent of North Americans drink more than that. The studies I have listed in this article and many more have never shown that any amount of alcohol is "safe" or beneficial. Whatever you decide about your own consumption of alcohol, do not base your decision on bad information from the alcoholic beverage industry.

[Two Bills]

I need a drink to cheer me up after reading that lot!!

[CWGUY]

I think pee water would be a up grade in taste compared to
Bud anything

:icon_wink: I wonder what Two Bills thinks.... so far he's the only one to admit he's tried both. :faint:

[JimJohnson]

I need a drink to cheer me up after reading that lot!!

Eggs, red meat, simple carbohydrates, alcohol, sugar, fried food, tanning, well, living is a cancer risk. Life was never meant to be permanent, so follow your heart and enjoy what you have left.

[retiredguy123]

Eggs, red meat, simple carbohydrates, alcohol, sugar, fried food, tanning, well, living is a cancer risk. Life was never meant to be permanent, so follow your heart and enjoy what you have left.
I agree. According to the National Cancer Institute:

"Based on data from 2009, an estimated 3.5% of cancer deaths in the United States (about 19,500 deaths) were alcohol related."

So, apparently, 96.5 percent of cancer deaths were not alcohol related. That seems like a pretty low risk.

[Two Bills]

Beer killed my next door neighbor.
He was knocked down by a car, on his way to the pub.:icon_wink:

[collie1228]

First, from the title of this thread I though Judge Brett Kavanaugh was the author (remember his "I like beer" rant to the Senate?) Second, I like beer too, and there is no light beer that qualifies as good to me. Not one. Nevertheless, I'm on a low carb diet that is working very well, and standard beers have way to many carbs, so I've resigned myself to an occasional beer only, and Michelob Ultra is probably the best I can do if I want to keep the weight off. I admit to an occasional Yuengling or Heineken as a rare cheat.

[DeanFL]

I need a drink to cheer me up after reading that lot!!


HA!!!! back from shopping - pic with my awaiting beer. Will try the Mich tonight. (will work from right>left.

[New Englander]

HA!!!! back from shopping - pic with my awaiting beer. Will try the Mich tonight. (will work from right>left.

Maybe it would be better if you had an additional unbiased taste tester. Leave your address and what is a good arrival time for me. There is no charge for this service. I do it out of the kindness of my heart. :icon_wink:

[DeanFL]

Maybe it would be better if you had an additional unbiased taste tester. Leave your address and what is a good arrival time for me. There is no charge for this service. I do it out of the kindness of my heart. :icon_wink:

funny.... what a guy - the beer would be free, but my service charge $$$$...

OK, I did have the bottle of Mich Ultra Pure Gold. NOT nearly the taste of a 'real' full-flavored beer. But... lacking the cals/carbs IS a good thing. I guess I'll switch back<>forth from the beer labels for the next few weeks.

[Toymeister]

If any posters find any beer unacceptable please send to your fellow Villager at Bagram Air Field, Afghanistan, any of it sounds great to me! Any carb count is fine.

We have zero alcohol beer it is ... Not the same.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Good beer and low calories can never go hand in hand. I have been going to England for a week in the summer for the past few years and I can say that we have nothing in this country that compares to their wonderful draught ales.

I have become very spoiled.

I did try Michelob Gold Ultra and it was like the rest of them watery and fizzy.

But I have friends that love it. On the other hand, I have friends that drink Bud and Bud Light, IMHO, the worst beer made.

So I guess it all depends on what you are used to.

[Bay Kid]

Life is too short for watered down beer. Hard to find a good light beer.

[New Englander]

Life is too short for watered down beer. Hard to find a good light beer.

Try Bush Light 12 0z can. 95 calories, 3.2 grams o carb. It's better than Bud Light.

[JimJohnson]

Follow up. I went to my favorite watering hole and explained to the bartender what I was trying to accomplish and she was so gracious to make it a challenge. She started bringing me about two OZ of beer in high ball glasses and I would taste, rinse with water and taste again. Long story shortened, I tried at least 7 available low carb beers, some two or three times till I got down to what I found to be the best(for me), and to my surprise, I settled on Miller Lite. I was shocked, but, it is what it is. Go beyond the marketing hype and fancy labels, and a blind test is more accurate than anything. So, in closing, thanks for all that gave suggestions and advice. If your in my area, stop by for a cold MILLER LITE.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Try Bush Light 12 0z can. 95 calories, 3.2 grams o carb. It's better than Bud Light.

Better than Bud Light is about the lowest standard possible. Is there any beer worst than Bud or Bud light.