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senior citizen
07-21-2014, 06:50 AM
SORRY THE LINK WORKS ON OUR COMPUTER, BUT NOT HERE.........JUST TOOK IT OFF.

Click the EXTRA pictures via above hyperlink.........unbelievable how quickly it happened.


http://www.baynews9.com/content/news/baynews9/news/article.html/content/news/articles/bn9/2014/7/19/sinkhole_spring_hill.html#.U8scAk1l6tg.facebook

A friend of my husband's, who used to live in our town, but relocated to the Daytona Beach area several years ago, sent him this new series of photos......after sending us the first pic on Sunday.

He has a first cousin/family in Spring Hill, a retired flight attendant. Her father & my husband's mom were siblings. I also have a first cousin in Spring Hill. The homes are lovely there; unfortunately, they have their sink hole issues..........it's a huge developement convenient to the Tampa Bay/Saint Pete area/airport........plus not far from Brooksville to the north where we have other relatives of my husband. Also a sinkhole area.

Witnesses say they saw the ground drop and then a cloud of dust and dirt.
"Out of nowhere the earth just went straight up in the air," said neighbor Margaret Helmick. "It exploded up in the air."

When deputies arrived, they measured the hole to be approximately 25x25 yards and 30 feet deep.

"More and more of it sinked into the ground as the police showed up here," said neighbor Sam Haneiwich. "A big hole just opened up."

The hole grew to approximately 40x40 yards, still at 30 feet deep. Officials said the hole had stopped growing as of 9 p.m. on Saturday.
http://www.baynews9.com/content/news/baynews9/news/article.html/content/news/articles/bn9/2014/7/19/sinkhole_spring_hill.html#.U8scAk1l6tg.facebook







 

senior citizen
07-21-2014, 07:06 AM
sorry the link works on our computer, but not here.........just took it off.

Click the extra pictures via above hyperlink.........unbelievable how quickly it happened.


Sinkhole in Spring Hill driveway a sight for neighbors (http://www.baynews9.com/content/news/baynews9/news/article.html/content/news/articles/bn9/2014/7/19/sinkhole_spring_hill.html#.u8scak1l6tg.facebook)

a friend of my husband's, who used to live in our town, but relocated to the daytona beach area several years ago, sent him this new series of photos......after sending us the first pic on sunday.

He has a first cousin/family in spring hill, a retired flight attendant. Her father & my husband's mom were siblings. I also have a first cousin in spring hill. The homes are lovely there; unfortunately, they have their sink hole issues..........it's a huge developement convenient to the tampa bay/saint pete area/airport........plus not far from brooksville to the north where we have other relatives of my husband. Also a sinkhole area.

witnesses say they saw the ground drop and then a cloud of dust and dirt.
"out of nowhere the earth just went straight up in the air," said neighbor margaret helmick. "it exploded up in the air."

when deputies arrived, they measured the hole to be approximately 25x25 yards and 30 feet deep.

"more and more of it sinked into the ground as the police showed up here," said neighbor sam haneiwich. "a big hole just opened up."

the hole grew to approximately 40x40 yards, still at 30 feet deep. Officials said the hole had stopped growing as of 9 p.m. On saturday.
Sinkhole in Spring Hill driveway a sight for neighbors (http://www.baynews9.com/content/news/baynews9/news/article.html/content/news/articles/bn9/2014/7/19/sinkhole_spring_hill.html#.u8scak1l6tg.facebook)







 




the facebook links work re spring hill sinkhole

graciegirl
07-21-2014, 07:12 AM
Sadly sinkholes happen. Thankfully not every day. So do other natural disasters. Springhill is near Daytona? No, Tampa?

pooh
07-21-2014, 07:19 AM
It's near Brooksville, on the Gulf side.

senior citizen
07-21-2014, 07:25 AM
Sadly sinkholes happen. Thankfully not every day. So do other natural disasters. Springhill is near Daytona? No, Tampa?


Spring Hill is a large development near the Tampa/St. Pete area.
I thought I mentioned that in the post. We have cousins in Spring Hill.
Homes are beautiful, but living there is risky. The lady who sent us the "news" originally moved to DAYTONA BEACH which is on the east coast of Florida, then they bought a house in DELAND......they are now on west coast near Spring Hill. She knew that our original plans were to retire to Florida; guess he hasn't mentioned to her that we will now be SNOW BIRDS......after coming to the conclusion/decision to retain our northern home. We don't even like our own humidity so realize we will not be able to tolerate the summers in Fl. Soon we will have cool crisp autumn weather, so for our particular circumstances, four seasons is best.....being a snow bird is best.........for us. There are many many snowbirds that are welcomed back to The Villages & other regions of Fl.

senior citizen
07-21-2014, 07:31 AM
It's near Brooksville, on the Gulf side.


Yes, that is correct.......it's slightly below Brooksville. Our uncle & aunt lived in Brooksville until they passed away; now their son owns the home.
Other cousins of both of us live in Spring Hill. Huge development close to Tampa Bay/St. Pete area. This one is NOT the first sinkhole. They are all over the area. I'm glad we did our research as we are getting too old for that type of "excitement".


I can't imagine anything like that happening on our street.
At least Vermont doesn't have catastrophic ground collapse.
The last time our state had roads wash away was when Hurricane Irene hit really bad up the middle of our state, up the spine of the Green Mountains, a few years ago. Actually, I think it was a tropical storm here. Very rare.

graciegirl
07-21-2014, 07:47 AM
Yes, that is correct.......it's slightly below Brooksville. Our uncle & aunt lived in Brooksville until they passed away; now their son owns the home.
Other cousins of both of us live in Spring Hill. Huge development close to Tampa Bay/St. Pete area. This one is NOT the first sinkhole. They are all over the area. I'm glad we did our research as we are getting too old for that type of "excitement".


I can't imagine anything like that happening on our street.
At least Vermont doesn't have catastrophic ground collapse.
The last time our state had roads wash away was when Hurricane Irene hit really bad up the middle of our state, up the spine of the Green Mountains, a few years ago. Actually, I think it was a tropical storm here. Very rare.


One never knows.

Barefoot
07-21-2014, 09:57 AM
I can't imagine anything like that happening on our street.
At least Vermont doesn't have catastrophic ground collapse.
The last time our state had roads wash away was when Hurricane Irene hit really bad up the middle of our state, up the spine of the Green Mountains, a few years ago. Actually, I think it was a tropical storm here. Very rare.

I'm sure that Vermont is close to perfection.
As long as you like black bears. :duck:

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PI-4uVH2h2Ihttp://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PI-4uVH2h2I

Patty55
07-21-2014, 10:15 AM
I'm sure that Vermont is close to perfection.
As long as you like black bears. :duck:

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PI-4uVH2h2I

As long as I have internet service and Google I'm okay with the bears.

Barefoot
07-21-2014, 10:15 AM
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PI-4uVH2h2I

slipcovers
07-21-2014, 10:16 AM
I can't imagine anything like that happening on our street.
At least Vermont doesn't have catastrophic ground collapse.
The last time our state had roads wash away was when Hurricane Irene hit really bad up the middle of our state, up the spine of the Green Mountains, a few years ago. Actually, I think it was a tropical storm here. Very rare.[/QUOTE]

Watch out for all the trees falling on your house and being snowbound without electricity. Being a snowbird does not stop you from worrying about storms and frozen pipes while you are away.

LndLocked
07-21-2014, 10:18 AM
ppppfffttttt that lil thing and those that have happened in TV are not sinkholes ... more like pot holes. Now if you want to know what a real sinkhole looks like:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPL4guf4BV4


I was playing a softball game in the city rec complex across the street and WPPD came running over and told us to leave ...NOW!! The swimming pool mentioned was part of the rec complex ... see the shot out the broken part of the pool into the sinkhole at 2:30

In the vid it mentions a house the sinkhole ate ..... that is actually where it started. An elderly lady was sitting on her front porch and a tree in her front yard just started to disappear into the ground. Fortunately she and her husband were able to get out in time!

janmcn
07-21-2014, 11:27 AM
Massive Sinkhole Forces Spring Hill Evacuations - Police & Fire - Largo, FL Patch (http://largo.patch.com/groups/police-and-fire/p/massive-sinkhole-forces-spring-hill-evacuations67072)


The crater is now estimated to be 40 yards across by 30 feet deep.

Bogie Shooter
07-21-2014, 11:35 AM
Spring Hill is a large development near the Tampa/St. Pete area.
I thought I mentioned that in the post. We have cousins in Spring Hill.
Homes are beautiful, but living there is risky. The lady who sent us the "news" originally moved to DAYTONA BEACH which is on the east coast of Florida, then they bought a house in DELAND......they are now on west coast near Spring Hill. She knew that our original plans were to retire to Florida; guess he hasn't mentioned to her that we will now be SNOW BIRDS......after coming to the conclusion/decision to retain our northern home. We don't even like our own humidity so realize we will not be able to tolerate the summers in Fl. Soon we will have cool crisp autumn weather, so for our particular circumstances, four seasons is best.....being a snow bird is best.........for us. There are many many snowbirds that are welcomed back to The Villages & other regions of Fl.

Yes, that is correct.......it's slightly below Brooksville. Our uncle & aunt lived in Brooksville until they passed away; now their son owns the home.
Other cousins of both of us live in Spring Hill. Huge development close to Tampa Bay/St. Pete area. This one is NOT the first sinkhole. They are all over the area. I'm glad we did our research as we are getting too old for that type of "excitement".


I can't imagine anything like that happening on our street.
At least Vermont doesn't have catastrophic ground collapse.
The last time our state had roads wash away was when Hurricane Irene hit really bad up the middle of our state, up the spine of the Green Mountains, a few years ago. Actually, I think it was a tropical storm here. Very rare.

Why is living there risky?

Sink holes are all over Florida!

Since there are no catastrophic incidents that ever happen in Vermont, I surely would consider never moving away to a place where bad things happen on a regular basis.

OBXNana
07-21-2014, 01:05 PM
There was ANOTHER sink hole in Harrisburg, PA last week. From what has been on the news, the entire street has been evacuated for a couple months. It isn't an area I frequent, but is within 20 miles of where we live. In Palmyra, PA (neighbor to Hershey) that no sooner has one sink hole supposedly filled and another opens.

Sink holes exist in many areas and it would be devastating to have your home and contents swallowed up. But, it seems Florida gets the brunt of the news coverage when it comes to sink holes.

Bogie Shooter
07-21-2014, 01:22 PM
And new threads posted.......................

Barefoot
07-21-2014, 01:47 PM
Since there are no catastrophic incidents that ever happen in Vermont, I surely would consider never moving away to a place where bad things happen on a regular basis.


I heard a rumor that there are mosquitoes the size of helicopters in Vermont. :eek:
And now back to sinkholes ...

Bogie Shooter
07-21-2014, 01:50 PM
I heard a rumor that there are mosquitoes the size of helicopters in Vermont. :eek:
And now back to sinkholes ...

That does it! Will not be building a summer home in Vermont.................:a20:

manaboutown
07-21-2014, 02:03 PM
Yes, that is correct.......it's slightly below Brooksville. Our uncle & aunt lived in Brooksville until they passed away; now their son owns the home.
Other cousins of both of us live in Spring Hill. Huge development close to Tampa Bay/St. Pete area. This one is NOT the first sinkhole. They are all over the area. I'm glad we did our research as we are getting too old for that type of "excitement".


I can't imagine anything like that happening on our street.
At least Vermont doesn't have catastrophic ground collapse.
The last time our state had roads wash away was when Hurricane Irene hit really bad up the middle of our state, up the spine of the Green Mountains, a few years ago. Actually, I think it was a tropical storm here. Very rare.

Well, I do not know about your street, Senior, but it appears Vermont has the highest rate of illicit drug use in the country (I am a little too old for that type of excitement)! Sinkholes or drugs, take your pick? Why Vermont Has A Drug Problem - Business Insider (http://www.businessinsider.com/why-vermont-has-a-drug-problem-2013-10)

rubicon
07-21-2014, 02:12 PM
I have a sister-in-law who lives on a golf course in Spring Hill. she had a sink hole and it cost well over $200,000 to correct

Frankly I would rather face the risk of a sink hole than the risk of driving on Highway 19, since the chances of risk on the latter are substantial higher

Laurie2
07-21-2014, 02:26 PM
Hey! It's a bubble not a cave. We know. We know. We know.

When we bought our house, I had just one big fear.

In fact, it was a great big white hot terror.

Of getting bizarro neighbors.

But it did not happen.

Not at all.

All of our neighbors are absolutely wonderful. Every one of them.

So I'm good. :wave:

senior citizen
07-21-2014, 03:09 PM
I'm sure that Vermont is close to perfection.
As long as you like black bears. :duck:

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PI-4uVH2h2Ihttp://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PI-4uVH2h2I



They do show up in people's backyards on occasion, especially if you live at the edge of town......along with deer, moose, fox, & a variety of other critters.........our daughter lives on ten acres of forested land in northern Vermont; a bear ate their groundhog who had been killing their chickens. Yes, it happens.

It's still not the same as the ground collapsing......not talking "pot holes" after the winter weather.

Vermont is a beautiful, natural state........but, speaking of bears, our neighbor to the west, New York State.....often has bears up in trees in neighborhoods.........they are out there......all over the northeast. Even in NEW JERSEY. Our nephew sees them all the time in Bergen County...........part of life.

Unless you are in Yosemite or out west somewhere, I doubt if the Vermont bears are attacking people.

We have a big family of deer that cross through our back property all the time.......as this used to be apple orchards. It seems to be an inbred "memory" generation through generation........to return to where the apples were. They are beautiful to watch after a fresh snowfall.

graciegirl
07-21-2014, 03:13 PM
Everybody loves their home. Ohio was my home and now Florida is my home. It is just human nature to identify with where we live and feel protective of it.

senior citizen
07-21-2014, 03:32 PM
I can't imagine anything like that happening on our street.
At least Vermont doesn't have catastrophic ground collapse.
The last time our state had roads wash away was when Hurricane Irene hit really bad up the middle of our state, up the spine of the Green Mountains, a few years ago. Actually, I think it was a tropical storm here. Very rare.

Watch out for all the trees falling on your house and being snowbound without electricity. Being a snowbird does not stop you from worrying about storms and frozen pipes while you are away.[/QUOTE]




I know. Our older tall trees were all taken down years ago , leaving only the ones at the far back of the property & the evergreens on the side property lines........they were beautiful, however, now we have no fears of trees falling.........also they keep our power lines well cleared of trees..........we, ourselves, are o.k.

We are pretty safe where we are........having alternate sources of heat, etc, etc., etc.......usually, it's the people on the coast that lose their power for long periods of time. We have a CVPS fellow who lives in our neighborhood, so in the rare event of power lines down, he comes to the rescue........it's actually Green Mountain Power now. As far as leaving our pipes to freeze, we put on a gizmo onto the furnace which calls any one of our neighbors who come over to check it out..........also our plumber. We can also drain the water out........as far as food & water, we are as well prepared as any "prepper" out there....

Patty55
07-21-2014, 03:40 PM
Unless you are in Yosemite or out west somewhere, I doubt if the Vermont bears are attacking people.

We have a big family of deer that cross through our back property all the time.......as this used to be apple orchards. It seems to be an inbred "memory" generation through generation........to return to where the apples were. They are beautiful to watch after a fresh snowfall.

(Quote snipped by me)

Don't know about the VT bears but the NY bears do attack. The girl who did my hair actually chased one who stole her beer. I know people with scars from bears. They are a danger to pets.

Perhaps the VT bears don't attack, maybe they got into a stash, who knows.

senior citizen
07-21-2014, 03:51 PM
I heard a rumor that there are mosquitoes the size of helicopters in Vermont. :eek:
And now back to sinkholes ...


http://www.fws.gov/refuge/missisquoi/ (http://www.fws.gov/refuge/missisquoi/)
This is one of the few places we have ever seen a mosquito in Vermont. Missiquoi Refuge.


It's flat, wetlands.....close to Canada. Near Lake Champlain & the Champlain Islands.


Northern Vermont actually had an encephalitis scare, just like Florida......last summer.


I think they call it eee ?? E.E.E. Eastern Equine Encephalitis? Only where there is swampy water.


Our only large body of water is to our Northwest.....Lake Champlain borders Vermont/New York State.


Where we are , there are no mosquitos.......NONE. No spraying with poisonous chemicals, nada.


However, up in the mountains there are black flies in springtime, which are most annoying.


Where we are, we have plenty of BEES, HORNETS, WASPS.
Always something, isn't there? Right now we are trying to capture a groundhog & skunk....in a have a heart trap.

senior citizen
07-21-2014, 03:52 PM
I heard a rumor that there are mosquitoes the size of helicopters in Vermont. :eek:
And now back to sinkholes ...


http://www.fws.gov/refuge/missisquoi/ (http://www.fws.gov/refuge/missisquoi/)
This is one of the few places we have ever seen a mosquito in Vermont. Missiquoi Refuge.

It's flat, wetlands.....close to Canada. Near Lake Champlain & the Champlain Islands.

Northern Vermont actually had an encephalitis scare, just like Florida......last summer.

I think they call it eee ?? E.E.E. Eastern Equine Encephalitis? Only where there is swampy water.

Our only large body of water is to our Northwest.....Lake Champlain borders Vermont/New York State.

Where we are , there are no mosquitos.......NONE. No spraying with poisonous chemicals, nada.

However, up in the mountains there are black flies in springtime, which are most annoying.

Where we are, we have plenty of BEES, HORNETS, WASPS.
Always something, isn't there? Right now we are trying to capture a groundhog & skunk....in a have a heart trap.

senior citizen
07-21-2014, 03:59 PM
I have a sister-in-law who lives on a golf course in Spring Hill. she had a sink hole and it cost well over $200,000 to correct

Frankly I would rather face the risk of a sink hole than the risk of driving on Highway 19, since the chances of risk on the latter are substantial higher


Hopefully, her insurance paid for it? We have cousins in Spring Hill plus more in the vicinity.....

senior citizen
07-21-2014, 04:41 PM
Well, I do not know about your street, Senior, but it appears Vermont has the highest rate of illicit drug use in the country (I am a little too old for that type of excitement)! Sinkholes or drugs, take your pick? Why Vermont Has A Drug Problem - Business Insider (http://www.businessinsider.com/why-vermont-has-a-drug-problem-2013-10)




http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Vermont (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Vermont)


Above link leads to a humongous long long wiki article on Vermont (if you keep scrolling down). Huge volume of info.


Fortunately, Vermont & our town in particular was the quintessential New England small town in which we chose to raise our family from 1970 until they flew the coop before 1990. Vermont retained its innocence & small town flavor; still does.


Most people do not commute more than a few minutes to work. Less stress that way. Relaxed lifestyle. Neighbors who know entire generations upon generations of family.


The "drug problem", which our drug task force seems to have under control, thanks to a young enthusiastic sheriff who wants his two little boys to grow up in the same safe atmosphere he grew up in............was a shocker to all of us.


These drug dealers come up from THE BIG OUT OF STATE METRO CITIES......targeting the locals, get them HOOKED.....thus they then have to SELL in order to support their own habit.......which is very addictive. Cocaine & Heroin.


THEY'VE ROUNDED THEM ALL UP IN BIG DRUG BUSTS........WEARING S.W.A.T. TEAM GEAR......SCARY TO SEE....WITH HELICOPTERS FLYING OVERHEAD........


Our Governor making the speech "spread the word" & it got national attention. They take pics of the culprits being handcuffed & taken to jail, booked the same day....


This is not something that is unique only to Vermont in the present climate of drugs in America.........


HOWEVER, because Vermont is a small, low population state, known for it's bucolic serenity, beautiful natural scenery & excellent quality of life..........it got massive media attention...........but we are glad they rounded up the KING PINS, which I am not allowed to DESCRIBE HERE.........but they are NOT native VERMONTERS, believe me. They wear the gang colors of ex cons from big city prisons.........they saw Vermont as a soft target to peddle their goods........getting the 20 to 30 something aimless youth addicted.


Believe me, when I say that Vermont has more health conscious youth than druggies. More upstanding WHOLESOME youth than the druggies.


These "city guys" come up, find a gal pal.....move into her apartment......& peddle their stuff.....but our police are doing a great job of scaring them off........& arresting them.


But, since you & many others seem to have bought into the drug problem issues of our state, the damage has surely been done as far as our pristine reputation of years gone by.


We always felt safe, leaving our doors & cars unlocked........now we lock our doors...........but then, we are older & wiser.......knowing that anyone can drive up here to peddle their drugs..............another huge problem in all states is the abuse of pharmaceutical prescription drugs........


Not to be defensive, but truthfully, we are safer than most other states I can think of. This is why we have chosen to stay put.


Addiction is a terrible thing.......I agree. Most kids raised in loving families will know NOT TO START taking drugs.........and to avoid bad companions.

Patty55
07-21-2014, 04:52 PM
Why is there a drug task force in SWAT gear rounding up big dealers if there aren't any drugs? I'm NOT GETTING THIS.

Y'know, SC, it's obvious that you love your adopted home state so why even entertain the thought of leaving.

It's equally obvious (to me anyway-LOL)that you don't like TV, not the place, not the people, not the lifestyle.

SO, What gives?

FYI-Not that it matters, but Spring Hill is a town, not a subdivision and the Equine Encephalitis outbreak in this area was brought in from out of state horses. The other outbreak I think was a result of a faulty "cocktail". Neither one had anything to do with Central Florida.

John_W
07-21-2014, 05:08 PM
My dad retired from the City of St. Petersburg in 1983 and my parents moved to Spring Hill for retirement. They bought one of the first homes in Timber Pines and lived there until 1998. Timber Pines is a beautiful gated retirement community that built out about 15 years ago with 3,200 homes on 2.4 square miles completely walled in with three golf courses. For anyone looking for a resale masonry single family home with a two car garage in the low 100's with really free golf, then go to Spring Hill and check out Timber Pines. It was going to be my first choice until I visited The Villages. Sink holes never entered my consideration, there are too many other factors in life than to think about something you have no control over.

http://www.timberpines.com/SiteDesign/SplashImages/splashImage_4.aspx