Push/Pull Water valves

[rfmjrm]

Does anyone know how to change the (push/pull) water valves out? I have 2
supply valves that apparently are closing due to the water pressure as it appears they are worn out. Very cheap product I might add!

I believe they are made by Accor but can't find any help on line except for man handling them off and pray you don't break the PVC pipe or tear it up
too much.

Any assistance is greatly appreciated.

Bob

[KathieI]

I recently had the same problem and searched on TOTV and came up with a couple of links that helped. Eventually, I did call the plumber and he charged me $80 to change valves in both bathrooms and did an extremely good job. Here's the link, hope it helps.

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/contractors-services-91/totv-fantastic-love-info-101061/

[Madelaine Amee]

I recently had the same problem and searched on TOTV and came up with a couple of links that helped. Eventually, I did call the plumber and he charged me $80 to change valves in both bathrooms and did an extremely good job. Here's the link, hope it helps.

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/contractors-services-91/totv-fantastic-love-info-101061/

We too, had the same problem with the valves, their life is about five years and then they are done. We called Kiley's to come and replace ours and they are fine now.

My other half wanted to do the job, but as he is not a plumber, I figured it was worth paying for the real thing and avoiding an "f ......... u" job which would have gone on for a couple of days and, really, life is too short for me to become a plumbers assistant ......... and please excuse my bad language!

[casita37]

Same problem. My husband talked to one of the guys at ACE, Southern Trace, and he told him what to do. Sorry.....I didn't listen and didn't watch.

[rjm1cc]

See

How to remove Accor Technology FlowTite water valve. - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNTfM_vku5k)"

[PennyAnn]

We had a terrible problem with the same thing, so we called The Villages.
They put us on to the original plumbing people.
Turns out, the valves were not the problem. They came and replaced the pressure tank, over the water heater, which gives out after 7 to 10 years.
Problem solved, and bill only $100 approx.
Call - Anthony Torri Plumbing. 352-330-5900
Good luck.

[rubicon]

For those who did replace their shut offs did you replace them with the same push/pull valve or did you upgrade?

[Madelaine Amee]

For those who did replace their shut offs did you replace them with the same push/pull valve or did you upgrade?

Upgrade. My son has a plumbing business in the North and he could not believe they were still installing this type of valve.

[tommy steam]

Upgrade. My son has a plumbing business in the North and he could not believe they were still installing this type of valve.

If you know , could you tell us what the upgrade was that you used?

[Madelaine Amee]

If you know , could you tell us what the upgrade was that you used?

I don't know. I had Kiley's do both my bathroom toilets ($120) and I now have the conventional water turn off valves going into the wall. All I really know is that they work well, probably for the first time in five or six years. No more emptying whenever they feel like it!

I am very glad we had a plumber in to do the job, one of the turn off valves leaked after the plumber left, and we had to have them return to put that right, there is no way we could have handled that. Well worth the $120 it cost to get it done properly.

[Carl in Tampa]

We had a terrible problem with the same thing, so we called The Villages.
They put us on to the original plumbing people.
Turns out, the valves were not the problem. They came and replaced the pressure tank, over the water heater, which gives out after 7 to 10 years.
Problem solved, and bill only $100 approx.
Call - Anthony Torri Plumbing. 352-330-5900
Good luck.

:agree: :agree: :agree:

I posted earlier about this problem and received a response from a home repair person who is an advertiser on this site. He told me that the real problem is a pressure tank above the water heater. This was not a kind of work that he did so he recommended Mike Scott Plumbing, 352-748-9111.

I had them do the work and have had no problems with the water valves since that time.

They have a web site which is very informative. I have since had them install safety grab bars in my showers and was satisfied with the work they did in that case.

They charge a flat rate for just showing up and then an hourly rate, divided into 15 minute increments for the work, and the cost of the part. My repair was done for $105.

[mac9]

The cold water for my washer has become so slow and it takes forever to fill the tub. Hot water is fine. Cold water pressure is fine throughout the rest of the house. If the cold water valve is the problem, what would the push-pull valve look like?

[TNLAKEPANDA]

After reading this post I would not replace with the same type of valve! Our new home has the dial type but still plastic. Isn't everything now a days. Guess they knew the pull/push valves were a problem!

[philnpat]

The cold water for my washer has become so slow and it takes forever to fill the tub. Hot water is fine. Cold water pressure is fine throughout the rest of the house. If the cold water valve is the problem, what would the push-pull valve look like?

It's probably not the valve that's causing your problem. If it's your clothes washer that you're referring to...push-pull valves aren't used.
Most likely your cold water supply input screen is clogged. To check this, turn off the cold water supply behind the washer. Disconnect the hose at the washer and check the screen. You'll most likely find it clogged with minerals. Clean it with an old toothbrush and you're good to go!

[Carl in Tampa]

It's not the valves The bladder in the expansion tank is bad. You need to change out the tank.

:agree:

[scottiee]

I just saw the video. I started plumbing full time in April 1972 and I would change them all to just about anything. They look like total junk. I have not seen one in use but I am sure I don't need to. Hope I didn't sugar coat it to much

[Carl in Tampa]

I just saw the video. I started plumbing full time in April 1972 and I would change them all to just about anything. They look like total junk. I have not seen one in use but I am sure I don't need to. Hope I didn't sugar coat it to much

Did you by any chance read the posts before yours that explained that the problem is not the valves?

The problem is in the expansion tank above the water heater. I, and others who have posted, had the same problem and replacing the expansion tank fixed the problem.

There has been no further "valve problem."

If the valves work there is no sense in replacing them.

[cst4villages]

For those of you still looking to replace and upgrade your push/pull shutoffs, Sharkbite makes a push fit ball valve that will work with the CPVC piping found in our homes. These fitting are found at most Home Depots and fairly simple to install, link below will bring you to the website (hopefully) :thumbup:
SharkBite 1/2 in. x 3/8 in. OD Angle Stop-23036-0000LF at The Home Depot (http://www.homedepot.com/p/SharkBite-1-2-in-x-3-8-in-OD-Angle-Stop-23036-0000LF/202270612#)

[LndLocked]

For those of you still looking to replace and upgrade your push/pull shutoffs, Sharkbite makes a push fit ball valve that will work with the CPVC piping found in our homes. These fitting are found at most Home Depots and fairly simple to install, link below will bring you to the website (hopefully) :thumbup:
SharkBite 1/2 in. x 3/8 in. OD Angle Stop-23036-0000LF at The Home Depot (http://www.homedepot.com/p/SharkBite-1-2-in-x-3-8-in-OD-Angle-Stop-23036-0000LF/202270612#)

TKS!! that is an interesting and appears to be a well made push on valve / fitting, that is easily removable as well and the price is about the same as a standard glue on valve. It would also solve the issue of needing to wait a min of 30 mins for cpvc glue to set before it can be pressure tested.

[klintsr001]

I too had problems with push pull valves. I replaced several and was at Ace Hardware in Southern Trace planning on purchasing another replacement valve when the clerk there told me how to test the hot water pressure tank (the clerk indicated that this could be the source of the problem). I tried to use a tire pressure gauge to check the air pressure in the tank. When I did water came out. This indicates that the rubber bladder inside the tank has failed. I replaced the tank (about 6 years ago) and my push pull valve problems went away until about two weeks ago. I again tested the air pressure in the tank and had water coming out so I am off to the hardware store to buy another pressure tank.